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13 years ago
one of the posters on the page that has the article responded very well.

Satori on February 28, 2012 at 2:16 pm

Continuity on the OL is something we hear about all the time, and while you can’t always plan for injuries, GB does have some flexibility in keeping the OL intact. We saw Clifton, Newhouse, Sherrod and Lang play OT last season

IF Sherrod is the long term answer at LT, then moving Bulaga temporarily doesn’t make as much sense. If Bulaga is the long-term answer at LT, then now is the time.
Let’s also consider that while in the past defenses frequently put their best rusher over the LT ( blindside)- that’s not always the case in today’s game. Note where Matthews lines up.
Pass rushers move around a fair amount and DCs scheme to get them free. So its not a given that the LT will always see the opponents’ best pass rusher. We saw Julius Peppers and other DLs switch sides vs GB last season

We also need to consider the fact that Rodgers rolls to his right much more frequently than to his left – meaning he is rolling away from the LT and the pass rusher on that side. That may be a response to Newhouse’s limitations, but we saw it with Clifton too. Right-handed QBs are more comfortable rolling out to the right side and MM in the past has noted he wants (2) “LT’s” protecting Rodgers. Perhaps Bulaga is just as valuable on the right as he would be on the left


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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Bryan Bulaga was originally a LT in High School and College, correct? It wasn't until the NFL that he became a RT. I don't think him moving to LT would be as difficult as him going from LT to RT.

Either way, as we've said several times. No more musical chairs. Put the players in their positions and let them grow into it. If they don't, then move them or cut them and get on the train going forward!
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Bryan Bulaga was originally a LT in High School and College, correct? It wasn't until the NFL that he became a RT. I don't think him moving to LT would be as difficult as him going from LT to RT.

Either way, as we've said several times. No more musical chairs. Put the players in their positions and let them grow into it. If they don't, then move them or cut them and get on the train going forward!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



It is not Bulaga moving to LT that would be the challenge. It is Newhouse moving to RT.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

It is not Bulaga moving to LT that would be the challenge. It is Newhouse moving to RT.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Newhouse filled in for Bulaga nicely this season.
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13 years ago

I'm more concerned with them switching between G and L than I am about guys flipping side to side. Especially with guys like Newhouse and Sherrod, who really aren't built to play inside. Versatility is great, but you're wasting your time putting a square peg into a round hole.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



🇲🇲 has stated a few times that he's sees OL players more R side vs L side than T vs G.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

It is not Bulaga moving to LT that would be the challenge. It is Newhouse moving to RT.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I thought the topic was about Bulaga moving from RT to LT. Ooops.

🇲🇲 has stated a few times that he's sees OL players more R side vs L side than T vs G.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 


I thought I'd remember something like this coming from the coach.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
It seemed to me that the only one who really struggled with changing positions was Colledge. He blamed it for his poor play. Personally, I would have blamed his poor play on him being a poor player.

Bulaga never player on the right before Tauscher got hurt. He was training on the left at both Tackle and Guard when he had to come in for Tausher.

His natural position is probably on the Left and I also think that you put your best Tackle on the left.

Sherrod has gone on record saying he played either side and it was no bother for him to switch sides.

Before Lang hurt his wrist, he did a fine job at Right Tackle. If he is 100% this year, I think he will be hard for Newhouse to beat out. Lang was a pretty good run blocker at R Tackle.

The '10 Cowboys game is when we got some good tape of a healthy Lang at R Tackle. He was pushing his guy 5 yards down field on running plays and didn't give up a sack.

I think they will continue to cross train and settle on a line up in the middle of pre season.
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porky88
13 years ago
Newhouse at left tackle scares me. He didn't play well last year. I think the expectations were so low that people graded him on a curve. The second half of the season was not pretty. He especially struggled against San Diego and Aaron Rodgers’ quick release covered up his mistakes.

Also, he fell out of favor with the Packers late in the year. The team was rotating Derek Sherrod in because Sherrod was getting better. Maybe I read too much into that, but I think they were preparing Sherrod for the postseason. They aren't giving up on him after one season. They gave Justin Harrell four years to get healthy, so I suspect they still view Sherrod as the long-term left tackle. Moving Bulaga makes no sense then, especially since the right side of the line is the one strength this offense has outside of its passing game.
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13 years ago

Newhouse at left tackle scares me. He didn't play well last year. I think the expectations were so low that people graded him on a curve. The second half of the season was not pretty. He especially struggled against San Diego and Aaron Rodgers’ quick release covered up his mistakes.

Also, he fell out of favor with the Packers late in the year. The team was rotating Derek Sherrod in because Sherrod was getting better. Maybe I read too much into that, but I think they were preparing Sherrod for the postseason. They aren't giving up on him after one season. They gave Justin Harrell four years to get healthy, so I suspect they still view Sherrod as the long-term left tackle. Moving Bulaga makes no sense then, especially since the right side of the line is the one strength this offense has outside of its passing game.

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It makes sense if Bulaga is better on the left than he is on the right. It also make sense if he is the best Tackle we have.

I would rather that we have our best tackle on the blind side.

I also think that Bulaga is more tenacious than Sherrod.

Sherrod may be prototypical but looking good doesn't equal playing good.
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13 years ago

It makes sense if Bulaga is better on the left than he is on the right. It also make sense if he is the best Tackle we have.

I would rather that we have our best tackle on the blind side.

I also think that Bulaga is more tenacious than Sherrod.

Sherrod may be prototypical but looking good doesn't equal playing good.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 


Michael Oher was a Pro Bowl right tackle in 2009. He played very poorly in 2010 after moving to left tackle. The Ravens moved him back to right tackle this year and he re-established himself. Some guys just can't play the left side. It's the hardest position to play on the field other than QB. Bulaga is a technician. Most of the Iowa guys are. They aren't physically gifted, but they're smart assignment sound players. The ability is limited, though. Do I think he can play OLT? I thought this when he was coming out, but I have changed my tune after watching him somewhat struggle against longer athletic pass rushers. I understand that he deserves some leeway because he’s still a very young player, but the point remains.
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