DakotaT
13 years ago
What's so difficult to understand Zero? If Flynn is tagged, you can bet your ass there is a handshake deal in place. Say Miami is our trading partner and they have the 8th pick in the draft. We send our 1st and 2nd rounder and Flynn to Miami for our pass rusher.

In this scenario - are we stupid to get a top ten pick. We did the same thing with Hasselback (except he was under contract) years ago, but the elite pass rusher ended up being JR Reynolds a name I will never forget somehow. Thank god we drafted KGB.
gbguy20
13 years ago

What's so difficult to understand Zero? If Flynn is tagged, you can bet your ass there is a handshake deal in place.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Exactly. We won't be paying him a dime.
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Since69
13 years ago
The problem with franchising Flynn is that he'd be making more (a hell of a lot more) money than Rodgers next year. If we do throw the tag on him, you can bet your ass (as was already mentioned) that there will already be a nudge-wink-fart deal in place before the draft...
gbguy20
13 years ago

The problem with franchising Flynn is that he'd be making more (a hell of a lot more) money than Rodgers next year. If we do throw the tag on him, you can bet your ass (as was already mentioned) that there will already be a nudge-wink-fart deal in place before the draft...

Originally Posted by: Since69 



Any team that trades for him will not be on the hook for the 14mill, they will be signing him to their own contract. That being said, Rodgers is way underpaid and it is still very possible he signs a bigger contract than Rodgers.
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DakotaT
13 years ago

Any team that trades for him will not be on the hook for the 14mill, they will be signing him to their own contract. That being said, Rodgers is way underpaid and it is still very possible he signs a bigger contract than Rodgers.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



I wouldn't be surprised if Rodgers gets a new contract this year in the $100M variety. How can anybody on this team come to the table and demand top dollar when the top player in the league is on a bargain basement contract?

If we cut Clifton and Driver, there is a lot of cap room to play with. Woodson renegotiating would certainly help as well.

Who knows if Flynn will get tagged, but it certainly is a much greater possibility now that Finley is taken care of.



gbguy20
13 years ago

I wouldn't be surprised if Rodgers gets a new contract this year in the $100M variety. How can anybody on this team come to the table and demand top dollar when the top player in the league is on a bargain basement contract?

If we cut Clifton and Driver, there is a lot of cap room to play with. Woodson renegotiating would certainly help as well.

Who knows if Flynn will get tagged, but it certainly is a much greater possibility now that Finley is taken care of.


Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Look at it this way, giving Rodgers a raise at the moment severely limits our room to work with. Rodgers knew when he signed a deal as early as he did that he would more than likely end up underpaid. I fully expect to give him a raise but I don't see it being this year. Probably after the season, but maybe even after 2013 when the new tv contracts give the salary cap a huge boost (if his contract isn't over by then?)
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13 years ago
glad they got the deal done with JerMike (the actual topic of THIS thread.) Normally i wouldn't have minded it he left but with the injury to Quarless I would hate to go into next season without 2 TE on the team.
gbguy20
13 years ago
thread woulda been boring had we all just said "yay jmike!"

in the words of @adbrandt "Reading Finley responses reminds me of time as NFL team negotiator. Most are asking "What about Flynn?" On to the next."

Thread reflects that.
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DakotaT
13 years ago
Yes Wayne, let's stay on topic. The contract gives us two more years to figure out if he really is a shithead or not. Plus for this year it is only $500K more than the tag would have cost.

That two years also buys us time to figure out if the other 4 TE's we have can do the job too. I like the deal Finley signed.
porky88
13 years ago
A two-year contract is very good for Finley. His agent did a marvelous job of setting him up for a huge payday in two years. I don’t see how he won’t live up to his potential. His impact in this offense is obviously huge. Aaron Rodgers had his two best statistical seasons with Finley playing a majority of snaps. Very few teams can matchup against the Packers with him in the lineup. Unfortunately, the Giants were one of those teams. Nonetheless, this is a good deal for the Pack, but an even better deal for Finley assuming he remains healthy.
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