wpr
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13 years ago

God damn, Buckeye, usually I argue with you like your my dumbass older brother, but that's the most brilliant post I've read in a long time. Merry Christmas man!

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 




And I think it is a pretty poor post. As Zero said we are entitled to an opinion. That doesn't necessarily make us believe we are the GM or HC.

I don't see anyone having a heart attack over the loss to KC but there are real issues with this team. All year long the OL has had trouble opening holes for the running game. All year long the OL has has trouble protecting the most valuable asset on the team and keeping him from getting sacked. The OL has giving up the 10th most sacks this year. If not for AR mobility they would be closer to #1. All year long the receiving corp has had issues with dropped passes. All year long the defense has had miscues and given up big plays.

These are real concerns to people. Off the record I am sure even Uncle Teddy and Mike are concerned as well and try to address it. It would do them no good whatsoever to publicly state the OL sucks or that they are sick and tired of the screw ups in the secondary so they don't and won't say so. Doesn't mean it isn't there.

Now we add the even more uncertain status of the OL. Hopefully they are healthy come playoff time. But there are no guarantees. Anyone of them can pull a hammy on the next series. It is s short step from a mediocre line to an abominable one. There is no doubt that GB is 13-1 because of AR but it takes more than just him to win a playoff game.
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RedSoxExcel
13 years ago

I worry that someday I will come on this forum and nobody will be here, because you all worried yourself to death!!!!

All you need to do is look at the teams The Packers will probably meet this year in the play-offs and realize that other than The Packers, most are completely different when they go on the road. IE Rams beat Saints Cardinals beat 49r's

The Packers had their "clunker" game for 2011 and everything is "gloom and doom".

By the time The Packers play their 1st playoff game of 2011 Clifton,Bulaga,Jennings Starks,and Saine will all be ready to go on offense, Pickett and Bishop will be back on Defense.

Things will be OK. I hated to see The Packers lose to the Chiefs, but it's not as bad as some are making it.

A little advice to some, quit trying to be GM and/or HC, The Packers have very good men at both positions, try cheering on The Packers...ALL THE PACKERS....enjoy the fact that this team is still poised to do something real special.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I don't know, I don't think there are a lot of "gloom and doom" going around. I would have posted my question win or lose, even if we were 14-0 right now, I would still wonder the same thing. I just think cold weather gives the underdog a better chance because some types of talent (e.g., speed) is neutralized. I think we are more talented than the Cowboys but I just think that the cold weather gives them a chance because things can go wrong for a team focused on the pass (for example, look at the Bears game last year). I didn't even think my post was negative towards the Packers based on the Chiefs loss on any level.

Overall, I think homefield is homefield and you are probably always better off being at home but I think with a team like ours, its an interesting trade-off.
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Silentio
13 years ago
http://packershome.com/tabid/63/g/posts/t/13960/Aaron-Rodgers-in-the-Cold.aspx  Worth looking at if you’re interested in this sort of thing. Basically production doesn’t fall off too much. If anything Aaron Rodgers’ production gets better in the second half of the season.

Games against the Bears -- while I wouldn’t call them an aberration -- are not a very good indicator of cold weather success. It is their defense, and not the cold, that seems to be the issue for the Packers.
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13 years ago
I'm not concerned about cold. I am, however, concerned about wind. We definitely need to utilize the running game more (which seems to be picking up at the right time). I think we would have run Grant even more against KC, and possibly won the game, if we had ANY depth behind him at all that game.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I think the Packers have homefield already. I'm not sure cuz I'm not sure how the strength of victory is calculated. If that is the same, then Packers get it on strength of schedule.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/35095/2011-strength-of-schedule 

UNLESS the games played within their own respective division plays a role. 49ers are 4 - 1, Packers are 4 - 0. Packers I think are likely to split the last two games, which are both division opponents.

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
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gergobacsi
13 years ago

I think the Packers have homefield already. I'm not sure cuz I'm not sure how the strength of victory is calculated. If that is the same, then Packers get it on strength of schedule.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/35095/2011-strength-of-schedule 

UNLESS the games played within their own respective division plays a role. 49ers are 4 - 1, Packers are 4 - 0. Packers I think are likely to split the last two games, which are both division opponents.

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


If the Packers lose their last two, and the 49ers win their last one, both records will be 13-3. In that case, 49ers stand 5-1 in their division, the Pack 4-2. 49ers get the homefield, OK. Yet this ESPN simulator says the 49ers win based on best percentage in common games. Question is, does the wins against the Rams count twice for the 49ers, and just once for the Packers?
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
You quote me to re-say what I said in the quote? lol Thank ya!
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gergobacsi
13 years ago
Sure, it was a quote-worthy tought. Just trying to re-learn the usage of this forum.
Bottomline, I don't get that ESPN simulator.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Sure, it was a quote-worthy tought. Just trying to re-learn the usage of this forum.
Bottomline, I don't get that ESPN simulator.

Originally Posted by: gergobacsi 


No worries, no one gets anything ESPN! 🙂
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Wade
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13 years ago
What's an ESPN simulator?

A blow up Hannah Storm?

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