nerdmann
13 years ago

That's how is comments read to me as well. And personally, I would rather him retire and fire up a coaching career or anything that limits his risk of being paralyzed.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




I agree. Sounds like the doctors are saying it's not healing optimally or something. Just seems like this stuff always hits the greatest players. Sterling Sharpe, Terrence Murphy, Gerry Berry. It's messed up, but I guess when it happens to lesser known guys we just don't hear about it as much.
Who thinks Woody moves back to safety next year?
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DakotaT
13 years ago



Who thinks Woody moves back to safety next year?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 




You have to be related to me somehow Nerd? [grin1]

Back to Collins - does it make any sense that a guy who has to do as much tackling as Nick - gets to do it with a bad neck? This isn't professional wrestling where the guys get to be carried cause they were once big tickets at the gate.

I have a good vibe about Burnett. He has a real smoothness to him and is mature for his age.

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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

I agree. Sounds like the doctors are saying it's not healing optimally or something. Just seems like this stuff always hits the greatest players. Sterling Sharpe, Terrence Murphy, Gerry Berry. It's messed up, but I guess when it happens to lesser known guys we just don't hear about it as much.
Who thinks Woody moves back to safety next year?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



You feel it happens to the 'greatest' players because they are in the limelight and you hear about it. Thousands suffer from the same thing, if not more.

Woody Harrelson was never at Safety and who cares?

The Packers safeties are Morgan Burnett and Charlie Peprah.
The Packers cornerbacks are Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams and Sam Shields.

That's how it is and that is how it should be. (unless Nick Collins comes back, or M.D. Jennings blossoms)
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Dulak
13 years ago
maybe this is bad of me ... but

Hats off to the surgeons whom suggested and performed this surgery ... nothing like ending a pro bowl safety's career; especially when he had 0 symptoms.

and they used to call chiropractors quacks ...


anyways ... wish him the best ... and for all you that say he should come back ... well wtf is he supposed to do when some butchers cut into him and slice his neck up? ... man Im pissed.

seriously whom needs injuries when we have doctors like this ...
DarkaneRules
13 years ago
In terms of journalism, this may be one of the greatest stories I have seen in terms of potential. It is interesting how it came out of something so negative and yet he has seen something very positive and freeing about it. He wants to coach and it looks to be sooner rather than later.

On the flipside, it is weird to see the playing career cut short relatively, but he had a great run nonetheless.

I cannot get over how incredible of a story this is overall. Very enthralling. He can prove possibly to be just as much of an asset on the sideline as he was on the field. If that is the case, that will certainly be good on his resume.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
13 years ago

He's done. When a player starts talking like that, he's already resigned himself to it. He'll never play again.

And that's a shame, but it's the right thing. There is life outside of football, after all.

Originally Posted by: Since69 



I would agree with you if the injury were something where he could dedicate himself hardcore and MAKE himself ready to play again, but this thing is more of a crap shoot. He's staying positive about himself and his life which I think is the best he can do right now.
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Rockmolder
13 years ago

You feel it happens to the 'greatest' players because they are in the limelight and you hear about it. Thousands suffer from the same thing, if not more.

Woody Harrelson was never at Safety and who cares?

The Packers safeties are Morgan Burnett and Charlie Peprah.
The Packers cornerbacks are Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams and Sam Shields.

That's how it is and that is how it should be. (unless Nick Collins comes back, or M.D. Jennings blossoms)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Didn't even mention Jeremy Thompson, who went out just a year ago.

And I wouldn't have put down Terrence Murphy as a great player, but it's a sad situation nontheless.

I was so excited about our safety duo. Two center fielders who can actually tackle a bit, as well. I mean, cover 1 with 1 safety as a robber. With Woodson in the mix, that's an absolutely nightmare scenario for QBs. Especially if we had more of a pass rush. Combined with our offense, the turnoverratio could've been abolutely ridiculous.
nerdmann
13 years ago

Didn't even mention Jeremy Thompson, who went out just a year ago.

And I wouldn't have put down Terrence Murphy as a great player, but it's a sad situation nontheless.

I was so excited about our safety duo. Two center fielders who can actually tackle a bit, as well. I mean, cover 1 with 1 safety as a robber. With Woodson in the mix, that's an absolutely nightmare scenario for QBs. Especially if we had more of a pass rush. Combined with our offense, the turnoverratio could've been abolutely ridiculous.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 




Tim Lewis too, from back in the day.
I was very high on Terrence Murphy. Gerry Berry too. They didn't get to show much, but from what I saw of them, they looked very good.
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tromadz
13 years ago
Rules are for the peons.
dyeah_gb
13 years ago
Collins is a definite loss which is a bummer. Its nice to see him adjusting to stay involved in football. I wish him the best of luck in coaching.
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