Greg C.
13 years ago

That sir is not conjecture, that sir is a FACTOID! You know it, deep down, you know it!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


I'm not quite sure where you're coming from with this comment. Are you joking?

Anyway, I think Rodgers' '08 stats are entirely relevant to this discussion and not the least bit out of context. Other than the stats, we're pretty much left with our individual impressions of how well Rodgers played. I thought he looked very good in the '08 preseason and very good right from day one of the regular season. Nonstop mentioned the possible criticism that he held onto the ball too long. I will also add that he might be criticized for not finishing games strongly, although the defense seemed to be the biggest problem in that regard. He was impressive in practice too, right from the beginning of training camp.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

When you start using conjecture as fact you lose any credibility.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Like the conjecture that Brett Favre somehow "made" the receivers in Green Bay?

I appreciate satire, irony, and other forms of humor as much as the next man, but coming from someone who frequently complains about not being able to discern sarcasm in print, it would be really nice if you'd be a little more forthcoming with your motives in this thread. Given that there are now several people baffled about what point you're trying to make, I think it's safe to say that the miscommunication is on your end, not ours.

In regard to the statistics posted in this thread, they represent a push as far as I am concerned. If Brett Favre made the receivers in 2007, then it's equally plausible that Aaron Rodgers made them in 2008. Or perhaps the receivers made the quarterbacks. It's all a matter of interpretation. There's no way to prove it one way or the other.
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DakotaT
13 years ago
Two names - Bradford and Schroeder - yeah Favre use to make receivers better, until Uncle Ted came along and started drafting talented receivers.

Are there really people out there that think we would have been better off keeping Screaming Lord Byron over Rodgers in 08? Wow, just wow! As far as I'm concerned that waffle ball to Driver, when 4 guys were open, was the last pass I wanted to see him throw.

As far as Zero using conjecture, I just think he's trying to mess with people like I do, but he just lacks the chops to pull it off.


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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Like the conjecture that Brett Favre somehow "made" the receivers in Green Bay?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



That sir is not conjecture, that sir is a FACTOID! You know it, deep down, you know it!



Edit, alright the BYE week is essentially over. I don't really know what this thread is about. I've been mocking Brett Favre's most recent comments about Aaron Rodgers and obviously too subtle for some of you over the hill blowhards to pick up on. I said many times, Brett Favre should have retired after the '07 season, then he did. I said many times he should have stayed retired, even his mother Bonita said the same thing even after the '09 season.

Do I think the Packers are a 13 win team under Aaron Rodgers in '07, no. Unfortunately I have no reasoning for this and am basing it off feeling. Initially I think the OL was very poor and Brett's quick read of an offense helped bail the Packers OL more than we care to admit. I do not think Aaron Rodgers could have emulated that success because he just did not have the experience yet.

Regardless of my fucking with a few dweebs who underestimate my football intelligence (dickheads), the quotes by Bob Harlan about Ted Thompson are why this thread was created. I found them quite interesting and revealing.
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Greg C.
13 years ago
So you WERE joking, sort of, I guess. I'm all in favor of humor WHEN IT'S FUNNY. When it's not funny it's just a waste of time, though.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
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I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
DakotaT
13 years ago
Just what we need - humor Nazis. Uffda, bring back VR somebody already.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

So you WERE joking, sort of, I guess. I'm all in favor of humor WHEN IT'S FUNNY. When it's not funny it's just a waste of time, though.

Originally Posted by: Greg C. 



Joking? No sir, I was MOCKING Brett Favre's comments about how long it took Aaron Rodgers to get a ring and how Rodgers fell into a good situation. Christ, I had to do SOMETHING to kill time for the BYE week. I just didn't realize I was going to be so deeply insulted by some of you folks who missed the boat.

The joke was the fools who couldn't pick up on it, yes, FOOLS! I did feel bad for Dexter and Rourke for dragging it on so long. Poor guys probably want to punch me for obtuse I was being, lol.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
No need to feel bad for me. I just wanted you to admit you were being satirical.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

No need to feel bad for me. I just wanted you to admit you were being satirical.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



I needed SOMETHING to help blow by the weekend. This was the best I could come up with while playing musical web hosts for 60 frickin' slow painful hours.
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