Ted Thompson expected criticism for drafting Aaron Rodgers· Page 2

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

That statement is so wrong on so many levels I can't take it seriously. If you are being sarcastic, then follow your own rule. If you are being a dick because you're mad about something I said recently, at least have the decency to admit to it.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

How is it wrong? You gonna throw some more out of context stats to support how wrong it is? I'm surprised it is taking you so long to provide substantial proof that it is wrong.

mi_keys
Senior Member

13 years ago

#12

More "out of context" stats for reference:

Brett Favre in '07
Comp: 356
Att: 535
Comp %: 66.5%
Yards: 4,155
TD: 28
Int: 15
Rat: 95.7

Aaron Rodgers in '08
Comp: 341
Att: 536
Comp %: 63.6%
Yards: 4,038
TD: 28
Int: 13
Rat: 93.8

Born and bred a cheesehead

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#13

Exactly! If Aaron hadn't had fallen into a great situation of those Brett-made receivers and able to sit and watch Brett, a future hall of famer, he would not have put up close to those numbers in '08. Brett on the Packers in '08 would have been 11 - 5 with three playoff wins.

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

13 years ago

#14

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I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#15

Compare Favres '08 season with his 24 turnovers and 81 rating. Since he was hurt and refused to come out, he would not have improved the record of The Packers and more likely would have made it worse. Since the losses they did have were mostly due to the D and ST failures.

The best way to compare would be side by side. Playing on the same team and against the same opponent on the same day.

That did happen in '07 against Dallas. Favre started the game, threw 2 picks and was knocked out of the game after 20 minutes where he posted a rating under 10. Rodgers came in, threw 2 TDs and posted a rating over 100.

Rodgers did light it up in the '07 preseason and had a rating over 98.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

What Brett Favre did with the Jets in '08 can not be assumed he would have done with the Packers. I'm surprised it took you so long to chime in and yet you failed to make any point worthy of reading.

Cowboys were prepared for a statue QB, not a mobile QB. That changes things whether you understand how Rodgers fell into a good situation against the Cowboys or not.

Quit trying to compare apples to oranges to bananas. It's not a good situation to fall into.

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

13 years ago

#16

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I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#17

Not even considering that Favre didn't want to be here in Green Bay and wouldn't have played with any passion. It would have probably been worse than the '06 season.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

When you start using conjecture as fact you lose any credibility. Although, we can safely say that Brett Favre would have had a year similar to the one in '09 with the Vikings had he played for the Packers in '08. The only comment Aaron Rodgers would have is he'd be surprised it took Brett Favre that many years to put together a 13+ win regular season record.

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

13 years ago

#18

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I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

13 years ago

#19

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I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#20

Like the conjecture that Favre would have had a better '08 season in Green Bay than Rodgers?

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

That sir is not conjecture, that sir is a FACTOID! You know it, deep down, you know it!

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