Zero2Cool
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One of the comments had things pegged fairly well. Women have held the cards for quite sometime. TV sitcoms the male is the dummy while the woman is superior in nearly every manner, not to mention women can get pregnant, custody of a child and even abort a child without the male. And I see the point in this comment too "Just as women have a natural instinct to nurture, men have a natural instinct to provide and protect.

The de-emasculation of men BY women is the root of the issue"



For the first time in history, women are better educated, more  ambitious and arguably more successful than men.

Now, society has rightly celebrated the ascension of one sex. We said, "You go girl," and they went. We celebrate the ascension of women but what will we do about what appears to be the very real decline of the other sex?

The data does not bode well for men. In 1970, men earned 60% of all college degrees. In 1980, the figure fell to 50%, by 2006 it was 43%. Women now surpass men in college degrees by almost three to two. Women's earnings grew 44% in real dollars from 1970 to 2007, compared with 6% growth for men.

In 1950, 5% of men at the prime working age were unemployed. As of last year, 20% were not working, the highest ever recorded. Men still maintain a majority of the highest paid and most powerful occupations, but women are catching them and will soon be passing them if this trend continues.

The warning signs for men stretch far beyond their wallets. Men are more distant from a family or their children then they have ever been. The out-of-wedlock birthrate is more than 40% in America. In 1960, only 11% of children in the U.S. lived apart from their fathers. In 2010, that share had risen to 27%. Men are also less religious than ever before. According to Gallup polling, 39% of men reported attending church regularly in 2010, compared to 47% of women.

If you don't believe the numbers, just ask young women about men today. You will find them talking about prolonged adolescence and men who refuse to grow up. I've heard too many young women asking, "Where are the decent single men?" There is a maturity deficit among men out there, and men are falling behind.

This decline in founding virtues -- work, marriage, and religion -- has caught the eye of social commentators from all corners. In her seminal article, "The End of Men," Hanna Rosin unearthed the unprecedented role reversal that is taking place today. "Man has been the dominant sex since, well, the dawn of mankind. But for the first time in human history, that is changing—and with shocking speed," writes Rosin. The changes in modern labor -- from backs to brains -- have catapulted women to the top of the work force, leaving men in their dust.

Man's response has been pathetic. Today, 18-to- 34-year-old men spend more time playing video games a day than 12-to- 17-year-old boys. While women are graduating college and finding good jobs, too many men are not going to work, not getting married and not raising families. Women are beginning to take the place of men in many ways. This has led some to ask: do we even need men?

So what's wrong? Increasingly, the messages to boys about what it means to be a man are confusing. The machismo of the street gang calls out with a swagger. Video games, television and music offer dubious lessons to boys who have been abandoned by their fathers. Some coaches and drill sergeants bark, "What kind of man are you?" but don't explain.

Movies are filled with stories of men who refuse to grow up and refuse to take responsibility in relationships. Men, some obsessed with sex, treat women as toys to be discarded when things get complicated. Through all these different and conflicting signals, our boys must decipher what it means to be a man, and for many of them it is harder to figure out.

For boys to become men, they need to be guided through advice, habit, instruction, example and correction. It is true in all ages. Someone once characterized the two essential questions Plato posed as: Who teaches the children, and what do we teach them? Each generation of men and women have an obligation to teach the younger males (and females of course) coming behind them. William Wordsworth said, "What we have loved, others will love, and we will teach them how." When they fail in that obligation, trouble surely follows.

We need to respond to this culture that sends confusing signals to young men, a culture that is agnostic about what it wants men to be, with a clear and achievable notion of manhood.

The Founding Fathers believed, and the evidence still shows, that industriousness, marriage and religion are a very important basis for male empowerment and achievement. We may need to say to a number of our twenty-something men, "Get off the video games five hours a day, get yourself together, get a challenging job and get married." It's time for men to man up.


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"Wife: blah, blah blah blah blah, problem problem blah blah blah

Video games: fun fun fun fun fun fun fun

hard choice "

LMAO
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It's so true. Even in sales, what is being taught now days is not selling to the man of the house, but to make sure both parties are at the presentation. The purpose is so that both get the information at the same time (instead of the man, then goes home to his wife and tries to 'inform' her and she shrugs him off), so the wife can decide what they want to do.

"Wife: blah, blah blah blah blah, problem problem blah blah blah

Video games: fun fun fun fun fun fun fun

hard choice "

LMAO

Originally Posted by: IronMan 



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13 years ago
lol that's freaking awesome ... and pretty much true.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Decriminalizing polygamy could ameliorate a lot of these problems, at least if more Western women could get over their bias that sharing a man somehow means they are not as special.

Sorry for the terse response -- I am late to the gym.
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Decriminalizing polygamy could ameliorate a lot of these problems, at least if more Western women could get over their bias that sharing a man somehow means they are not as special.

Sorry for the terse response -- I am late to the gym.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



YOU are a terse response.
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As a responsible, now married man I can say that life is a lot more fun when you don't need to give up your 4 hours of videogames a day because you're too damn tired after a long day of work and chores around the house to play at a high level. At one time I was close to the skill level I'd need to be at to qualify for some pro-am tournaments. Then I moved, got married, and got promoted into a position where I'm basically babysitting a bunch of morons all day and responsible for their behavior. Priorities I guess.

Maturity and "grown-upness" has its place and it's important to be able to identify which situations require a completely mature approach, but I see far too many people forget how to live life... And here I am falling into the same trap. Knowing when to be immature and irresponsible is almost as important... Life's no fun if you never let yourself have some fun.
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1. Women are designed to look good in black dresses.
2. Men are not.
3. Ergo, women should rule the world.

(shrug)
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Are you serious?! You mean my dream of being a stay at home dad isn't just a fantasy anymore?
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13 years ago
oh dear gawd...

i've never heard so many male biotches strokin each other off than here.

LMAO!!
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oh dear gawd...

i've never heard so many male biotches strokin each other off than here.

LMAO!!

Originally Posted by: 4PackGirl 



(hurt look)
Didn't you see me saying that women should rule the world?
[grin1]

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(hurt look)
Didn't you see me saying that women should rule the world?
[grin1]

Originally Posted by: Wade 




Being a nice guy never gets you laid, Wade.


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13 years ago

Being a nice guy never gets you laid, Wade.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Speak for thy shelf... that is a myth of epic proportions.
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Being a nice guy never gets you laid, Wade.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



A propos of nothing in particular, this reminds me of my senior year in high school. At the end of the year, we always passed around our copy of the "high school annual" to classmates who would then write little (or not so little) tributes/letters/etc about us. Among those writing in mine was the single most beautiful and sexy woman in the entire school (cheerleader, eventually married starting quarterback, etc.). Who said, in mine, "to the nicest guy here."

Which would tend to support your argument.

For back then, anyway.

But I do dispute the argument that I still fit said "nice guy" definition.

Shy, yes. Weird, definitely. But nice. No.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Shy and nice definitely aren't the same thing. Shy guys tend not to be nice in my experience.

Anyway, shy guys can get laid. Women like shy guys. Being shy doesn't mean you have to be a pussy. You can be shy while still being manly and direct. "I'm really shy, so normally I wouldn't say this, but I have to tell you that I think you're sexy as hell." Let her take it from there.
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13 years ago

"I'm really shy, so normally I wouldn't say this, but I have to tell you that I think you're sexy as hell." Let her take it from there.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



You single guys should be taking notes.
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You single guys should be taking notes.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Why, is our target the girls with less than 80 IQs?

All the shy guy has to do is bag one hot chic and that shyness is gone. He becomes a confident swinging dick and won't have any problems again. If a guy hits a dry patch, it's because he probably has some other problem going on, or has overgrazed the pasteur and needs a new playground, or he got married.

Nonstop is full of shit.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
I disagree. I can get women pretty easily when I put forth the effort, yet I find it no easier now to approach a woman than I ever have. I am just as nervous and shy about it as ever. In fact, the way Kat2's (then) best friend figured out that I really liked her was by how badly my voice shook as I talked to her. I was quite literally shaking in my boots (I met her while in uniform). Courage is sexy precisely because it's not the absence of fear but rather taking action in spite of fear.

Then again, I have noticed that a woman ceases to be intimidating the moment I kiss her. It's somehow impossible to be intimidated by a woman after I've gotten that close to her. I guess because at that point, it's easy to see how ordinary and human she really is.
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There's no single sure fire way to bed a woman. If there were, what fun would it be in trying? Each woman is different, each woman wants something different, each woman wants to be approached different, etc ...

Yes, some methods work more efficiently than others. That's how things go in life. Hell, even sometimes the same method that didn't work on the woman the first time, will work if you try again.


It's really not rocket science at all. Talk to a woman, before yourself, even if you're goofy, nerdy, geeky, whatever. Majority of women that I've encountered would rather a geek act like a geek than a geek try acting like something he's not. Be you and chances are, she'll dig that.


Something often lost in the efforts of getting with a woman is ... really ... it is very easy. The problem comes with guys trying to hard or talking about their ex's or being douche bags. The simple fact you approach a woman, gives you a helluva lot more than you realize. Our problem as men, is we tend to screw things up by being douchebags.
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A woman knows within 5 minutes of meeting you whether or not you'll being knocking pee-pees. Do you have any idea the amount of snapper I gave up in my life being a shy/nice guy. It's when I became heartless that notches on the belt starting piling up.

And believe me, God and Karma are kicking my ass now! in about 3 or 4 years I'm going to have a bunch of little bastards sniffing around Butch and her little sisters. And I deserve every bit of it, but I'm taking it out on all of you.
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