Understood that civilization dies. However, there are tons of crappy parents out there. I'd almost like to give them financial incentive NOT to breed.

Kudos to those out there who realize they'd be crappy parents and don't breed. People like that should get medals.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 

There's nothing wrong with gay marriage the divorce rate in this country is over 50%,

Originally Posted by: TexasPackerFan 

That's not true. In fact, it's never been true. The divorce rate last approached 50% back in the 1980s and has been declining ever since. It is down to about 35% for first-time marriages now. Marriages between people over the age of 25 have about a 25% divorce rate. Marriages in which the couple completes premarital counseling before getting married have less than a 10% divorce rate. (It helps to know something about your mate before tying the knot. Huh, what a novel concept.)

The 50% figure was always based on lazy statistical analysis anyway. It derived from the fact in any given year, there tended to be about a 2:1 ratio of weddings to divorces in this country. It doesn't take a lot of thought to realize why, if in a particular year there are 2 million weddings and 1 million divorces, that might not equate to an actual 50% divorce rate (if for no other reason than most marriages last longer than a year). Subsequent marriages also have significantly higher divorce rates than first marriages, another factor that inflated the ostensible divorce rate.

Couples are most likely to get divorced within the first five years. There is another spike in divorce around year 19-20 (about the time the kids leave home), but statistically speaking, if you make it through the first five years, you are probably in it for the long haul, and if you make it through the first 20, you're probably going to stick together for life.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 

Yes, it's the same people getting divorced over and over again who skew the stats. If anything is ruining the institution of marriage, it's those people. My next door neighbor for instance was on her 4th marriage and her hubby on her 3rd. They'd fight in public and cause a scene all the time.

So, she tells my son "your first marriage, marry for love." WTF? For one, people who can't get along in a relationship shouldn't be giving ANYONE advice about relationship matters. The another, saying "your first marriage" is already implying it's gonna fail.

LOSER!

Now those people, gay or straight, shouldn't marry.

And to answer your question Dakota - childless people shouldn't be punished because other people chose to breed. Nobody put a gun to your head and said "breed!" That was a lifestyle choice.

If you can't afford children, don't have them. Simple as that. We live in a capitalistic society. I'd like to keep it that way. I hate socialism because it rewards the lazy masses and punishes the responsible people.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 

We're comparing apples to oranges. I provide for my children, and I'm providing an education for a lot of children that aren't mine. But the people who don't have children are suppost to ride free I guess. Yeah Zombie, the only thing you and I have in common is the conquest of undeserved snapper.

Zombie, the only people in this society who are capitalists are the business owners. Everybody else who doesn't have the testicles to own a business have a job, not a career - they have a fucking job. And they should be voting for every socialist program coming down the pike because us businessmen are more then happy to keep invading your rights as job holders and are more than happy that you sheeple vote the Republican ticket. We Beaurocrats are more than happy to collect the taxes from the sheeple and give the Capitalists tax breaks and stick more and more tax burden on the sheeple. And we Capitalists especially salute you Teabaggers for doing all the dirty work for us for free - we'll try and keep government spending down for you, but damn there's a lot of money to be made in illegal wars. In case there's some confusion this last paragraph contain numerous occassions of sarcasm.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

Your continual degradation of the Tea Party exposes the fact that you don't even know or understand the grassroots purpose of it.

Yes, it's sad that some try/tried to make it an actual political party. And yes, it's sad that because unpopular politicians/celebrities were 'inducted' into the movement give the Tea Party a 'black eye' in many eyes.

But that does NOT mean the purpose behind what started it doesn't still exist. Your stance against it, along with many others, prove that the media has far more control over what you see and think than you care to admit.

Originally Posted by: Formo