Police brutality at peaceful protest on Wall Street· Page 3

DakotaT
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13 years ago

I'm conflicted with the "Born with Certain Rights" argument, because I definitely do not want deranged, dimwitted people walking around "packing". I also don't believe everyone should have the right to be a parent. My own brother is a perfect example of this. He fathered three children and to this day is as clueless as the premiscuous 18 year old he was when he began being a father.

I get the whole small government, fewer laws way of thinking. But it seems like the people that push for this are really bright people and don't take into account that a lot of people need to be taken care of because of the dumbass plague we have going on from coast to coast.

Nonstopdrivel
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13 years ago

#22

Why should the dumbasses be taken care of? If they can't find a way to care for themselves, why should they be preserved long enough to pass their genes on? I tend to agree with George Carlin on this point: "The kid who swallows too many marbles doesn't grow up to have kids of his own."

DakotaT
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13 years ago

#23

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

Because this is where a person's heart, conscience, and humanity get put to the test. I realize the Greed and Control party don't give a flying fuck about these people, yet they sit in the front pew in church every week. It's a tough call all the way around. On a position like this one Non, just remember you are dealing from a stacked deck: let's unstack it for a minute - imagine yourself fathering a down syndrom baby. Should we feed it to the tigers, or should we as a society do what we can to ensure it's life.

Nonstopdrivel
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13 years ago

#24

The whole concept that you need a permit for ANY Right that you were Born with is absurd. I see where NSD is going with this.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

In the words of REALteach4u over on the OpenCarry.org forum: "CCW is nothing more than taxation of the 2nd Amendment."

I couldn't agree more.

Pack93z
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13 years ago

#25

The whole concept that you need a permit for ANY Right that you were Born with is absurd. I see where NSD is going with this.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

This is where the confusion comes in on my part.. prior to the concealed carry law, Wisconsin allows open carry currently.

http://www.kirkobear.com/open_carry_wisconsin.html

Wisconsin is one of two states that completely prohibit concealed carry by private citizens.

Open carry is legal except where prohibited by law (government buildings, schools, and establishments that sell liquor).

What is illegal is to carry concealed.. which shouldn't be restricted from law abiding citizens.. and until the passage of the concealed carry law was prohibited.

While I concur that it is another hidden tax upon our freedoms, I do agree that there should be some protocol in place to restrict the right for felons and those that don't abide the law properly.

My point is simply this.. how is it a step back other than the fee attached? I don't see it that way.. I see it as a step forward other than said fee.

Now.. I can understand some need for the fee to offset the cost of the application to weed out those that should be restricted.. but that is another topic all together. Whom picks up the cost.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

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