nerdmann
13 years ago

1. I think the loss of b-jack will hurt us due to his blocking and ability on the screen. We have to cut somebody at RB though.

2. Is anyone really surprised that Barnett will not be playing with us this year?

3. I am glad we signed Jones. Dominant passing and good D won us the SB last year and keeping these strengths gives us the best shot this year.


3. The loss of Jenkins hurts but we will pick up Jolly to take his place. . .



Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 





These younger guys are gonna be monsters on screens. They'll pick up the blocking aspect of it as well. I think they'll already be competent at it, but get better as they go.
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shield4life
13 years ago

Dude, "only talented player" in that list is Jenkins? Really?

Firstly, Barnett was injured two years (2008 season and 2010 season) but he gave it his all otherwise. It should say something when beat writers respond in-game that Nick Barnett has to have a serious injury because he hasn't come back on the field (as Tom Pelissero did when the Pack played the Vikings in 08). People may not agree with his attitude - to each his own, really - but it's hard to make the case Barnett isn't talented when he produced well during his tenure here.

Secondly, Brandon Jackson. Dude gave up all of ZERO sacks in his time with the Packers. Considering the playing time he got behind a less-than-stellar O-line, that has to count for something.

As for Chillar: he was our best coverage ILB. Granted he was injured and would not contribute much, if anything, this season, but it's hard to find solid depth at the position. If I'm not mistaken, when Capers turned to his big Okie package, it was Chillar who replaced the Safety.

Finally, Finley would be the absolute worst choice to replace Jones. In 5 WR sets, Jones lines up on the outside. You want your best playmakers lining up in the slot to give them a chance to work mismatches. So moving Finley, arguably our best playmaker, out of the slot would be a bad move.

For the record, Hall - when healthy - has been amongst our best special teams players. He is injury prone and that creates problems, but on a unit that has downright struggled past couple of years, it is hard to say removing its best player will make us better. Definitely hard to say that when Hall's replacement (Quinn Johnson) is definitely one of the lesser players on our special teams.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 



First of all, I was just trying mean that the only player or let me be more precise the only position that only lost talent / lost a little edge is Dline. Agreed thread title was is bad.

Second of all you don't need talent to block, you need knowledge and understanding the opposing teams play, good reading of upcoming blitz etc...

Special teams players are expendable.

I didn't mean precisely that Finley would replace the position of Jones but instead his talent is replaceable by Finley's.


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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I see all_about_da_packers is saying things he can't back up again ... tsk tsk tsk. I still love ya. :)

I'm in agreement with the thinking that Cullen Jenkins is the hardest to replace. I think one of the rookies will fill in admirably for Brandon Jackson, or maybe James Starks will be the third down guy? IF so, he'll have to improve his blitz pick up.
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bozz_2006
13 years ago
I get the backlash here. I mean, all these guys are talented. All of them are actually very good. But I am in agreement with S4L on some level. The loss of Jenkins is the only one that really really stings, in my opinion anyhow.
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13 years ago

The initial post is not bad. It's the thread title that's bad. Jenkins is not the only talented player who was lost, but he is the MOST talented and the hardest to replace. I fully agree with that sentiment. Jones was the second best player who was up for grabs, and they got him back, so I'm happy. We've known for the past five months that Jenkins would be gone.

Originally Posted by: Greg C. 




excellent Greg.

Shield you do need talent in order to block. There has been way too many players league wide over the years who failed miserably when blocking. It takes a little more than knowing how to block in order to be successful.

I am quite positive that Ted and Mike would completely disagree with you on your assessment of the expendableity of ST players.
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beast
13 years ago

you don't need talent to block

Originally Posted by: shield4life 


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porky88
13 years ago

First of all, I was just trying mean that the only player or let me be more precise the only position that only lost talent / lost a little edge is Dline. Agreed thread title was is bad.

Second of all you don't need talent to block, you need knowledge and understanding the opposing teams play, good reading of upcoming blitz etc...

Special teams players are expendable.

I didn't mean precisely that Finley would replace the position of Jones but instead his talent is replaceable by Finley's.

Originally Posted by: shield4life 


Blocking is a lot harder than it looks, especially for a RB having to step up and take on a blitzing Ray Lewis. Brandon Jackson did just that in 09 against Baltimore.

Still, I agree with what I think you're saying. The Packers loss guys, but nothing game changing. Their core remains intact and their getting guys back. This team should be better this season than last, regardless of the last four days.

zombieslayer
13 years ago
I can see there are a few people on this board who think that blocking is easy and doesn't take talent.

Well, if I remember correctly, Joe Theismann's career ended because LT had a free shot on Theismann.

Let's not forget that Brandon Jackson allowed 0 sacks last year. Yes, that is not a typo. Zero. Not one.

Although we know he's not good enough for a 1st & 2nd down back, let's not underestimate his blocking ability. He was by far our best blocking RB.
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bozz_2006
13 years ago

I can see there are a few people on this board who think that blocking is easy and doesn't take talent.

Well, if I remember correctly, Joe Theismann's career ended because LT had a free shot on Theismann.

Let's not forget that Brandon Jackson allowed 0 sacks last year. Yes, that is not a typo. Zero. Not one.

Although we know he's not good enough for a 1st & 2nd down back, let's not underestimate his blocking ability. He was by far our best blocking RB.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



So what? Blocking's super easy.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

I can see there are a few people on this board who think that blocking is easy and doesn't take talent.

Well, if I remember correctly, Joe Theismann's career ended because LT had a free shot on Theismann.

Let's not forget that Brandon Jackson allowed 0 sacks last year. Yes, that is not a typo. Zero. Not one.

Although we know he's not good enough for a 1st & 2nd down back, let's not underestimate his blocking ability. He was by far our best blocking RB.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Where can I see what player gave up what sacks? I haven't been able to find any source for that.
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