Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Worst article I've read in a long time, and there have been plenty of horrible articles this off-season. Not even worth commenting on.

Originally Posted by: Greg C. 




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nerdmann
13 years ago
Of all the position groups, I'm most worried about the Dline. And that's just a question of depth more than a question of talent.
If one of the CBs goes down, I think Morgan Burnett could be the nickel. But I think Devon House is gonna be pretty good anyway.
We got alot of guys competing for just a few spots. ROLB, backup S, RB and RG.
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The_Claymaker
13 years ago
As others have said pretty poorly written article. Aaron's injury concerns are WAY overblown. Neal is probably the most important on that list. If Zombo steps up he could be important but we don't know exactly what to expect from him. Masthay might actually be the 2nd most important simply because it seems like he's the first respectable punter we've had in a while
Yerko
13 years ago
I agree with the Neal choice (and any other back-up defensive lineman) being critical to have another successful season and leading to a repeat. Jenkins made life easier for his teammates and Capers with the pressure he created and attention he received on the field. Neal has some big shoes to fill.

Surprised to not see James Jones on here. Even though he had some bad drops, wouldn't the writer think he is critical to have on the field rather than Masthay or Flynn?

Jordy Nelson is a good choice to have as well. The more targets Rodgers has, the better.


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zombieslayer
13 years ago

Worst article I've read in a long time, and there have been plenty of horrible articles this off-season. Not even worth commenting on.

Originally Posted by: Greg C. 



Agreed. I now regret doing it.
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DoddPower
13 years ago

Surprised to not see James Jones on here. Even though he had some bad drops, wouldn't the writer think he is critical to have on the field rather than Masthay or Flynn?

Originally Posted by: G-Force 



I'm assuming he assumes that James Jones will not be a Packer this season.
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13 years ago

That can be said about any position- If the defensive player (insert name here) doesn't produce the opposing QB will have more time to find his target. If the offensive player doesn't produce (insert name here) Aaron won't have the time he needs.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Yes, but not every player made the contribution-to-be-replaced that Jenkins did.

Put it this way: Desmond Bishop replaced Nick Barnett last year. Did a very good job. If he hadn't, the Packers would have been in more trouble. But not as big a trouble as they will be if Neal doesn't make it to Jenkins level.

Or an even better example, Brad Jones went down and was replaced by Zombo/Walden. They did well, but if they hadn't, all the Packers would have lost is Jones' production. Which was not on Jenkins level anyway.

To my mind losing Jenkins is more like replacing Mike Wahle with Daryn College-the-one-year-vet. Fortunately, Neal showed more than Colledge did in his first year. (Indeed, may have shown more than Colledge has done yet in his career.)

It has been how many years now, and it was only last year (maybe) that the "potential" of a successor for Wahle has translated into "adequate replacement"?

All we have right now is a few games and "potential" to trust in with regard to Neal. I'm not saying that letting Jenkins go is a bad decision -- not yet anyway -- but it is a move that has MAJOR risk. Risk far bigger than any other free agency loss I can think of for this year.

You let a stud go, and you run a big risk. And IMO Jenkins, injury problems and all, Jenkins has demonstrated that he is a major stud.
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13 years ago
I am just trying to argue semantics with you. It is not often I get to jerk a Prof's chain around and get a away with it. I guess after 30 years I am still a) in awe b) bitter c) all of the above d) none of the above.
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13 years ago

I am just trying to argue semantics with you. It is not often I get to jerk a Prof's chain around and get a away with it. I guess after 30 years I am still a) in awe b) bitter c) all of the above d) none of the above.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



S'ok.

Specially since the professoriat (yours truly excluded of course) deserves far more chain-jerking as they get. Other than lawyers and politicians (and, alas I'm one of those, too), no one deserves it more.



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zombieslayer
13 years ago

S'ok.

Specially since the professoriat (yours truly excluded of course) deserves far more chain-jerking as they get. Other than lawyers and politicians (and, alas I'm one of those, too), no one deserves it more.


Originally Posted by: Wade 



I lost interest in becoming a Professor after the PC police cracked down on Profs sleeping with students. WTF. That should be a perk.

Back on topic - agreed about Jenkins. Replacing him won't be easy. WHEN he's on the field, he's elite. His stats prove that. He makes tackles AND sacks QBs. Not too many 3-4 DL have comparable stats.
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