Formo
13 years ago

You guys have put the emphasis on offense. In today's culture, everything is offense, offense, and more offense. In actuality, defense plays a role too. Packer fans should know that because their last two postseason losses occurred because of plays made on defense.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



We put emphasis on the offense because the league and it's rules heavily favors the offense. This is why I want the rule's to change.

That being said, I'll survive keeping them as is. I like college ball better anyway.
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13 years ago

I like college ball better anyway.

Originally Posted by: Formo 




DUH. It goes without saying. After all you ARE a Vikings fan.
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Pack93z
13 years ago

DUH. It goes without saying. After all you ARE a Vikings fan.

Originally Posted by: wpr 





Have you seen the Gophers play football? LOL.. only those a gluten for punishment would resort to the Gophers for their football. 🙂
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13 years ago





Have you seen the Gophers play football? LOL.. only those a gluten for punishment would resort to the Gophers for their football. :)

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Yep I have. Just being a smart donkey.
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mi_keys
13 years ago

If talking to yourself is a sign of impending insanity, then what is quoting yourself a sign of? [duh]

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



In my case, probably the same.
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Greg C.
13 years ago

I like the argument that both teams had an opportunity for four quarters, therefore don't NEED to have their offense touch the ball once in over time. I think if the rules were to say that both teams offense would get the ball, we'd see less urgency closing out games, thus less exciting finishes.

I'm against changing the rules in overtime. I love an exciting finish and I strongly feel that there will be a sense of urgency missing if the teams both know they'll get the ball in over time.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



So maybe the unfairness of the coin toss causes teams to play with more urgency at the end of a game. It's an interesting idea, but I don't buy it. Even if true, they are certainly going to play with urgency during the overtime period. In college, both teams get the ball in overtime, and there seems to be no shortage of urgency. So whatever urgency you might lose at the end of regulation is gained in overtime.

Really what it comes down to is that a lot of us think it's cheap when a team wins the coin toss, picks up a few first downs, and wins the game with a field goal.
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I decided the genesis was the Thanksgiving Day game between Chicago and Detroit Nov 27, 1980. Detroit (7-5) was the favored over Chicago (4-8). The Lions kind of bumbled along most of the game and never put away the Bears. That made for a pretty boring game. Yet with no time left on the clock the Bears scored to tie the game. They then took the kick 95 yards to win in OT. Even though I am for the most part anti Bears, I and everyone in the room, had to admit that was one heck of a fun game to watch.

Now people try and tell me that it was not fair that Detroit did not get yet another chance to win the game. I don't feel the same way. Some have even advocated doing away with the kick off all together and want to set the ball on the 20 yard line instead. I hope it never happens.

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I am still waiting to hear why my post several days ago on page 3 is wrong. By your combined silence I assume you all agree with me. [roflmao]
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Formo
13 years ago

I am still waiting to hear why my post several days ago on page 3 is wrong. By your combined silence I assume you all agree with me. [roflmao]

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Picking ONE game out of how many to prove your point doesn't make it valid/invalid.

Greg C. nailed it on the head.
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Picking ONE game out of how many to prove your point doesn't make it valid/invalid.

Greg C. nailed it on the head.

Originally Posted by: Formo 




sure it does. It may be only one game but it could happen in any OT game. And it was perhaps the best finish to an OT game (at least on Thanksgiving) ever.

But given the sissy way of lining the ball up at the 20 or sharing the ball concept denies the opportunity from ever happening again.
You are trying to deny my rights. Where is the ACLU when you need them? Or the NAACP or the SPCA or one of those darn groups? 🤣
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13 years ago

sure it does. It may be only one game but it could happen in any OT game. And it was perhaps the best finish to an OT game (at least on Thanksgiving) ever.

But given the sissy way of lining the ball up at the 20 or sharing the ball concept denies the opportunity from ever happening again.
You are trying to deny my rights. Where is the ACLU when you need them? Or the NAACP or the SPCA or one of those darn groups? 🤣

Originally Posted by: wpr 



To each their own, I guess.

While that game MAY have been an awesome OT.. I think the anxiety being a college OT game is much more relevant, thus making it more exciting. I use the OT game PSU at Minnesota that ended on a phantom PI call.. Never was I more wound up over an OT in any sport than I was at that game. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that I was at the game, but even the OT games the Vikings were in during the 98 and 09 NFC Championship games I wasn't as wound up.
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