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13 years ago

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In Casey Anthony's case, the law worked
 
Many are upset at the verdict. But the system worked.


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Casey Anthony greets defense attorney Jose Baez as he arrives in court for her sentencing in Orlando, Fla. (Joe Burbank, Orlando Sentinel / July 7, 2011)

By Robert L. Shapiro
July 9, 2011

After Casey Anthony was found not guilty of murdering her daughter Caylee this week, a disturbing spectacle unfolded outside the Florida courthouse where the trial took place. The crowd outside, convinced that Anthony should have been convicted, began chanting "Appeal! Appeal!" The spontaneous demonstration revealed how little many Americans know about the justice system.

The 5th Amendment guarantees that defendants can't face "double jeopardy," which means the government can't prosecute a person a second time for the same crime if the jury returns a verdict. Only if the jury doesn't reach a decision can prosecutors elect to retry the case.

If the demonstrators outside the courthouse were angry about the verdict, they should have blamed the prosecution, because its approach was probably responsible for Anthony's acquittal.

First, prosecutors overcharged the case. What they knew is that Caylee's mother didn't report the child missing for a month, and that when she did, she told lies. By the time the body was found, it was too badly decomposed to provide clear evidence of the cause of death. Yet prosecutors chose to bring a charge of first-degree murder and ask for the death penalty. Why did they take this route? They tried to gain a tactical advantage, and it backfired.

By making this a death penalty case, prosecutors knew they were far more likely to end up with jurors predisposed to favoring the prosecution. Potential jurors in a capital case must, under oath, state that they don't oppose the death penalty and that they could impose it if the case warranted it. What the prosecution failed to take into account was that in death penalty cases, jurors, perhaps unconsciously, require a higher standard of proof. This is just common sense when such an irrevocable punishment is involved.

Our constitutionally-based criminal justice system places a high value on protecting the innocent. Among its central tenets is the idea that it is better to let a guilty person go free than to convict someone without evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.

Had the case been properly charged, there could have been plea discussions and the possibility of a guilty plea to a lesser, but still serious, felony. By charging a capital murder, the chances of a plea were nonexistent.

Next, the prosecution overtried the case. Criminal cases require strategy, and prosecutors should attempt to prove only what can be proved. In this case, prosecutors wanted to dot every "i" and cross every "t," which led them to introduce questionable science that served to weaken their case. For example, they claimed that an air sample taken from Anthony's car showed evidence that a decomposing body had been in the trunk, a claim based on a largely unproven kind of testing never before allowed in a U.S. trial. The prosecution's desire to answer every question in the end gave the defense ammunition to poke holes in the forensic aspects of the case.

Why then, is the public so outraged about the verdict? Part of the blame must fall on the media. This case got a lot of armchair quarterbacking from self-appointed experts, many of whom have never tried a murder case. By offering punditry rather than serious analysis and reporting, the media turned the trial into entertainment.

In court, jurors are admonished by the judge at every recess not to discuss the case or form any opinions until the case is given to them for deliberations. Of course, there is no such limitation on the public. Fortunately, the Anthony jury was sequestered and, thus, not unduly influenced by the media commentators. The jurors were limited to admissible evidence, as determined by the judge, in making their decision. The media had no such restriction.

After the verdict, the state attorney noted that this was a difficult case to prove. He was correct.

Casey Anthony was not found innocent; she was simply not found guilty of murder because the prosecution did not prove each and every element of the charges they brought against her beyond a reasonable doubt.

There are other countries that have different standards of proof, and in some of them, Anthony probably would have been found guilty and executed. I doubt if any American would want to live under that kind of justice system.

Robert L. Shapiro, a Los Angeles attorney, was part of O.J. Simpson's defense team.
Copyright © 2011, Los Angeles Times



I couldn't agree with Shapiro more. The system of lynch mobs backed by kangaroo courts seemingly advocated by so many Americans these days frightens me. I would not want to live in the country those people want to have.

Wasn't it the Queen of Hearts who said, "Verdict first, trial later"? It sounds like a great idea.

Unless you're Alice.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

McConnell Raises Concern Over Civilian Terror Trials in Light of Casey Anthony Acquittal
 
Published July 10, 2011 | FoxNews.com

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Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell pointed to the acquittal of Casey Anthony as an example of why the U.S. civilian court system should not be trusted to try terror suspects.

Anthony, the Florida mother charged with killing her 2-year-old daughter Caylee in 2008, was found not guilty Tuesday on all charges except lying to investigators. Becoming perhaps the first lawmaker to do so, McConnell drew a lesson Sunday from that case in connection with the debate in Washington over whether to try suspected terrorists in federal courts.

"These are not American citizens. We just found with the Caylee Anthony case how difficult it is to get a conviction in a U.S. court," McConnell told "Fox News Sunday." "I don't think a foreigner is entitled to all the protection in the Bill of Rights. They should not be in U.S. courts and before military commissions."

McConnell and other Republicans were outraged this past week after the Obama administration moved to charge a Somali terror suspect in civilian court in New York. Fox News has since learned that the suspect had met recently with American-born radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.

McConnell wants him and other terror suspects brought to Guantanamo Bay and tried in U.S. military commissions.



The abject and utter idiocy of our leaders never ceases to amaze me. Attorney Jonathan Turley, of whom I am a big fan, points out  that McConnell's statement "seems to confirm for civil libertarians the obvious: the tribunal system was designed by prosecutors for the sole purpose of guaranteeing convictions by stripping away basic legal protections and procedures."

He concludes wryly: "Next we will explore the impact of the Anthony verdict on space exploration and drilling in the outer banks."
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Cheesey
13 years ago
I think she was guilty. I think most people that heard the details of the case and her actions think she was guilty.
Did they prove it? Seems like they didn't.
Thus, she walks.
I think she was as innocent as O.J. was.
But i do understand that the burden of proof was on the D.A., and he either didn't have the evidence or he blew it.
It's a shame. A innocent little girl died, and no one will ever pay for it.
I feel sorry for the jury, too. I know they had all the evidence given to them, and i think most of them FELT she did it. But they did the right thing if it wasn't PROVEN by the prosecution.

If the names of the jurors gets out, they will probably be harassed, which is SO wrong.
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Formo
13 years ago
Whether I think she did it or not does not matter. I can't say because I only heard about this case after she was found not guilty. Here's my 2 copper pieces:

Where's the evidence? You can't put someone away without tangible evidence and there was none.
From what I heard another lawyer say was one story saying that the girl's grandfather found her dead in a swimming pool and tried to make it look like a murder when it very well could have been an accident.
It's hard to ignore all the witnesses (both the prosecution and defendant's) statements saying that Casey seemed to be a good mother. She may not have been but LOOKED or SEEMED like it.

All that said.. I completely disagree with Casey's actions during and after the trial. The bottom line is a little girl lost her life and with public eyes on you, the wrong thing to do is act a fool.
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