mi_keys
13 years ago





I disagree.. the WCO isn't fading it is evolving but surely not fading IMO.. the short slant and crossing patterns are a staple of almost all pro offenses.. the shorter drops and timing patterns are littered into almost all playbooks.



The stacked sets that we have seen become popular the last couple years with heavy motion are direct evolutions of the theory of "stretching" the defense not just vertically but horizontally as much as possible.. the backbone of the west coast roots of Walsh.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Maybe another way to think of it is that the west coast offense is defusing into other styles of offense. It's no longer a stand-alone focal point but it serves as a useful element in a number of other offenses. I don't know but I guess it's a way of thinking about it.
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mi_keys
13 years ago

I still think Starks and Green are gonna be much more fun to watch.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Right, all things equal if Starks can continue his run of form, if Grant can re-find his, and if Green can fulfill his potential it can only help us. I hope they do so.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago





I disagree.. the WCO isn't fading it is evolving but surely not fading IMO.. the short slant and crossing patterns are a staple of almost all pro offenses.. the shorter drops and timing patterns are littered into almost all playbooks.



The stacked sets that we have seen become popular the last couple years with heavy motion are direct evolutions of the theory of "stretching" the defense not just vertically but horizontally as much as possible.. the backbone of the west coast roots of Walsh.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Alright. Well said.

What I should have said is that we're no longer a strict WCO team. And pretty much every team in the NFL uses some of the WCO concepts.

If you look at the 2007 and 2010 O's, very different styles.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

Alright. Well said.

What I should have said is that we're no longer a strict WCO team. And pretty much every team in the NFL uses some of the WCO concepts.

If you look at the 2007 and 2010 O's, very different styles.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



I would say this is a Hybrid offense. It uses WCO and ZBS elements mixed with power I, inverted bone, vertical passing game and spread offense.

I don't think they use a scheme as much as all schemes.

I would call it the meat grinder offense. Take chunks of what ever make it down the conveyer belt and dump it in. Grind it all together and use what works.


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13 years ago

How Much Does Rodgers Benefit from YAC?


The real question is

How Much Does YAC Benefit from Rodgers?

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Greg C.
13 years ago

The real question is

How Much Does YAC Benefit from Rodgers?

Originally Posted by: beast 



I couldn't agree more. It was the same with Favre. We've had two very accurate QBs in a row.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

I would say this is a Hybrid offense. It uses WCO and ZBS elements mixed with power I, inverted bone, vertical passing game and spread offense.

I don't think they use a scheme as much as all schemes.

I would call it the meat grinder offense. Take chunks of what ever make it down the conveyer belt and dump it in. Grind it all together and use what works.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



Yeah, that's a pretty good analysis. We run so many types of Os that we drive DCs nuts (which is a good thing). Opposing DCs never know what we'll hit them with. I think of all the Os in the NFL, we're one of the most diverse.
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13 years ago
I say the Packers run an offense that's called "U Can't Touch This". I win.
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13 years ago

Take chunks of what ever make it down the conveyer belt and dump it in. Grind it all together and use what works.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



This made me think of a hot dog.
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13 years ago
What benefits this offense more than anything is Ted Thompson's ability to stock it with talented playmakers.
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