Player Most Likely to Breakout in 2011· Page 4

Greg C.
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13 years ago

4 games into his rookie season.. and he is labeled mediocre.. lol.. awesome.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

Overstating somebody's point never does any good for a discussion. Burnett wasn't "labeled mediocre." GBguy20 was merely commenting on the quality of Burnett's play, not necessarily labeling him. I also happen to think that Burnett's performance was mediocre overall, although that is expected for a rookie safety unless he is a very high draft pick.

I don't expect Burnett to be a breakout player this year. What we've usually seen with safeties is that if they are going to be good it takes them about three years to get there. There seems to be a steeper learning curve at that position than there is for almost any other position. The only position I would definitely put ahead of safety in that respect is QB. I think WR and CB are comparable. At other positions (OL, DL, RB, LB) it is more likely that physical prowess can make up for lack of experience.

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Pack93z
Select Member

13 years ago

#32

Originally Posted by: Greg C.

Agreed, it was suppose to be more in humor than anything (please note the tongue and cheek response to the quoted post, one in which the context was lost (one excellent play verses player being labeled awesome)).. but that was my point, he was a rookie safety starting.. that speaks highly especially when his backup played at such a high level last season.

Expectations, in my opinion, were held high if a person expected a rookie in such a pivotal spot in a complex defense to play at an extremely high level. Learning curve so to speak.. especially since he lost his season 3.5 games into it.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#33

Originally Posted by: Greg C.

This kind of response isn't something I see from you, hope you're not having a bad day because you really made something out of nothing here, lol. Morgan Burnett is a NFL player and is labeled by his play on the field, unless he does something really good/bad off the field. Why? Because we don't know anything much else about the fella.

Darren Sharper was labeled as soft, couldn't make it in the league and now he's in the top 10 or something for career interceptions.

My point is, a label can change and we give labels from what we see on the field. That's just how it is.

Greg C.
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13 years ago

#34

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Nah, I wasn't having a bad day. I just thought that Pack93z's use of the word "labeled" in that case was a bit much. But maybe it was my response that was a bit much. I just didn't want to see the thread go in a bad direction.

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porky88
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#35

What is the definition of breakout in this case? The way I see it, Burnett is going to emerge as a contributing starter this year. I would put him in the mold of what we saw from Desmond Bishop a year ago. His football intelligence should not be underestimated.

However, if we're talking a Tramon Williams like leap, then I think the most obvious answer is Jermichael Finley, who is ready to burst. Some would argue he broke out in 09, but his production hasn’t come close to matching his potential.

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nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#36

Darren Sharper is soft. He also gambles too much and is a loudmouth. "First and foremost, I consider myself an entertainer."

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PackerTraxx
Senior Member

13 years ago

#37

Sam Shields. He is still quite raw/new to the position. However, he has great athletizism, and speed. That coupled with his maturity, work ethic, experience last year, coaching, and having Woodson to help him I look for him to really improve. The biggest challenge will be getting playing time. But I think Capers might/will use Woodson as a hybrid corner/safety/linebacker allowing Shields to get playing time and attack with unique defenses.

Any of the people mentioned could have breakout years, but my first wish would be for Neal, especially as a pass rusher because it's something we could really use with Cullen most likely leaving.

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DoddPower
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#38

Darren Sharper is soft. He also gambles too much and is a loudmouth. "First and foremost, I consider myself an entertainer."

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

To be fair, that's what every football player is. Football is entertainment, and the players are the entertainers. At least Sharper is willing to admit it. No different than musicians, actors, comedians, etc. Entertainers.

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