Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Do you really believe it's the songs lyrics that gets them teared up?
Do you really not consider there may be an emotional link between them and the song?
Do you really not consider they may have suffered a loss for the country and this sparks their visible emotional expression?

Go ahead and laugh, hell, I'll mention something else that you can laugh at as well. Why? Because I, unlike some am not ashamed of it and don't give much a damn what others think about it.

There's a few songs (mainly Fleetwood Mac) that when played, cause me to get a bit teary. They were songs that were favorites of my mother. I couldn't tell you the lyrics as it's not the lyrics that get me, its the link between the song and my mother and memories that do.

For those who want to read the lyrics of the song some apparently choose to laugh at while they get teared up over ... here ya go

Born down in a dead man's town
The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
You end up like a dog that's been beat too much
'Til you spend half your life just covering up

[chorus:]
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.

I got in a little hometown jam
And so they put a rifle in my hands
Sent me off to Vietnam
To go and kill the yellow man

[chorus]

Come back home to the refinery
Hiring man says "Son if it was up to me"
I go down to see the V.A. man
He said "Son don't you understand"

[chorus]

I had a buddy at Khe Sahn
Fighting off the Viet Cong
They're still there, he's all gone
He had a little girl in Saigon
I got a picture of him in her arms

Down in the shadow of the penitentiary
Out by the gas fires of the refinery
I'm ten years down the road
Nowhere to run, ain't got nowhere to go

I'm a long gone Daddy in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.
I'm a cool rocking Daddy in the U.S.A.
Born in the U.S.A.


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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Kevin, there are songs that make me teary too. "Letters from Home" is a prime example. It is the only song to arise out of the Iraq War that I connect to and like (and infuriatingly, it is almost impossible to find on Youtube, even in the States), and it makes me choke up every time I hear it.

What makes me laugh is when "Born in the USA" is played as a patriotic song when it most certainly is not. It is just very ironic to play a song at a patriotic event -- particularly a militarily oriented event -- that is not only not patriotic, it is decidedly anti-military.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
That makes more sense to me. I read your comment wrong then, my mistake. I took it as when the song came on, some who get teary you felt it was for patriotism and that is what made you laugh. I felt that was pretty short sighted in my opinion.

You're speaking more on when it's played AS a song of patriotism.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Precisely. I am a very patriotic person. I have shed plenty of tears during the playing of the National Anthem, particularly since geting back from my tours in Iraq. It drives me nuts when people don't show proper respect for the flag when the "Star Spangled Banner" plays.

I was more commenting on how people's perceptions of a symbol, such as a song, can be colored by their preconceived notions, and they can embrace a symbol that might even be representative of something antithetical to their own beliefs without critically thinking about it first.
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14 years ago

Kevin, there are songs that make me teary too. "Letters from Home" is a prime example. It is the only song to arise out of the Iraq War that I connect to and like (and infuriatingly, it is almost impossible to find on Youtube, even in the States), and it makes me choke up every time I hear it.

What makes me laugh is when "Born in the USA" is played as a patriotic song when it most certainly is not. It is just very ironic to play a song at a patriotic event -- particularly a militarily oriented event -- that is not only not patriotic, it is decidedly anti-military.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



NSD
I had no trouble finding LFH. Here is the page with more choices. 

[youtube]4lN7ox5XPZY[/youtube]

I don't have speakers on my office computer so I am not sure whichone you wouldlike best.
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Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
Remembering the sacrifices and the struggles of those Vietnam era veterans is a patriotic thing to do.

In my opinion.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago

That song is a dig at the US.

Like Archie Bunker was a dig at narrow minded bigots.

Some people just didn't get it.

"nerdmann" wrote:



So was Born in the USA, but don't tell that to Ronald Reagan...

"Since69" wrote:





I wouldn't say the US per se, it's more of a criticism of NEOconservatives who have taken over the government and manipulated the populace to eradicate civil liberties and bankrupt the nation.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:



The movie is also a great dig at Hollywood and how they take themselves way too seriously.

It is like they think they matter or something when all they really are is a dancing monkey.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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