Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
This kind of reminds me of wine connoisseurs. Yeah, it has the right bouquet and the right color, is tart and has a oaky after taste blah blah blah. But does it taste good? If I like the taste of a $2.00 bottle of wine better, then I don't care.

We can do a preliminary assessment and so what if it isn't accurate enough. The only way to be really accurate is using hindsight.

Grading the draft now is just a prediction of how you think the players will turn out. Given that it is just a prediction, we accept the limitations of guessing what the future holds.

Yes, waiting 3 years will give us a better and more accurate assessment, but to be 100% accurate, you have to wait until all the players drafted are actually retired. So 3 years isn't perfect either. But we accept those limitations in our enjoyment of the team.

It is as relevant as the Mocks, because it is fun to speculate. Which is half the fun of being a fan and half the reason we are even on this forum talking about the team.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
doddpower
14 years ago

This kind of reminds me of wine connoisseurs. Yeah, it has the right bouquet and the right color, is tart and has a oaky after taste blah blah blah. But does it taste good? If I like the taste of a $2.00 bottle of wine better, then I don't care.

We can do a preliminary assessment and so what if it isn't accurate enough. The only way to be really accurate is using hindsight.

Grading the draft now is just a prediction of how you think the players will turn out. Given that it is just a prediction, we accept the limitations of guessing what the future holds.

Yes, waiting 3 years will give us a better and more accurate assessment, but to be 100% accurate, you have to wait until all the players drafted are actually retired. So 3 years isn't perfect either. But we accept those limitations in our enjoyment of the team.

It is as relevant as the Mocks, because it is fun to speculate. Which is half the fun of being a fan and half the reason we are even on this forum talking about the team.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:



Great post. Would have been hard to say any better. It amazes me the rules some try to impose on fans of sports, music, food, women, etc. etc. It someone enjoys doing something, they're more than likely going to do it regardless of what others say, especially such a harmless and overall insignificant thing such as draft grades. I suppose it's a nice exercise in futility. I know I don't have time for such things though, unless of course someone was paying me. :icon_smile:
Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
All such discussions by fans/media about the teams they enjoy is are an exercise in futility.

It doesn't make it any less fun. Or any less relevant.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

People read draft grades, so the sites give out draft grades. If people didn't care what others though about their team, the traffic wouldn't be there then.

"porky88" wrote:



I'm hoping you do a grade on the each of the Packers picks and share it with us. I'm looking forward to it.
Greg C.
14 years ago
I agree with most others that this is much ado about nothing. I just like to read people's takes on the draft, if they sound like they are well-informed. I don't care whether or not they give the draft a grade. A grade is just a way to tell at a glance how well someone thinks a team filled its needs. It's no big deal, and everyone knows that it is to be taken with a great big grain of salt.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
:roll:

http://drafthq.nbcsports.com/team_picks.aspx 

A
G.M. Ted Thompson killed it, as usual. All of Green Bay's first five picks brought value, and at least four fit into positions that needed depth. Derek Sherrod will be a starter by year two. Randall Cobb is incredibly versatile and draws Percy Harvin comparisons. Alex Green is highly underrated. Davon House has the size-speed combo of a starter. D.J. Williams is "move" tight end insurance in case Jermichael Finley leaves in 2012 free agency. Don't be shocked if Lawrence Guy or Ricky Elmore develops into a major contributor. Ryan Taylor was UNC's special teams captain in 2008 and 2010.


Rockmolder
13 years ago
Walter Football 

2011 NFL Draft Grades:

Ted Thompson is one of the elite general managers in the NFL, so it's not shocking that he pieced together one of the top 2011 NFL Draft classes.

With his first two picks, Thompson improved Aaron Rodgers' pass protection and gave his quarterback an intriguing weapon to work with. Later, Thompson found help on defense with great values like Davon House, Ricky Elmore and Lawrence Guy.

The only selection I didn't like was Alex Green. I'm not saying Green is going to suck or anything, but running backs are really a dime a dozen, so you can obtain a quality back at any round in the NFL Draft. I would have rather seen Thompson find a front-seven player at the bottom of Round 3.

Having said that, this grade is still an A+ because of the multiple trade-downs that Thompson orchestrated. Thompson just flat out ripped off a couple of teams during Draft Weekend.

Overall 2011 NFL Draft Grade given on 5/1/11: A+

PackerTraxx
13 years ago
Dex, I like your comment. It's all part of being a fan. You have the power to agree or not, partake or not, read or not, watch or not etc. I like most things pertaining to the draft, I have zero interest in fantasy football.

The most important thing in football, to me, we did last year - win the Super Bowl. Those are some of my choices, each person can make their own. That's part of the fun of being a fan.
Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
Thanks. I hope I didn't come off too strong and preachy.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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beast (12h) : Yeah, but also some of the wording suggestions Jax only pranked called the QB, not the others... and if he had an open spreadsheet & 3 calls
beast (12h) : Thank goodness he's not leaving the Turtle in the Red Tide
Mucky Tundra (13h) : Cowboys 1st round pick Tyler Booker will indeed be bringing his pet turtle to Dallas with him
Mucky Tundra (13h) : that contained all prospects info and contact
Mucky Tundra (13h) : beast, according the Falcons statement Jax came across it on an ipad. If I had to guess, probably an open spread sheet or something
Zero2Cool (13h) : Simmons put up an emoji with cheese.
beast (13h) : Not sure anyone is interested in Isaiah Simmons... Collin Oliver might of taken his potential slot
beast (13h) : I'm going with Jax Ulbrich is not telling the whole truth... he accidentally came across it? Why would a defensive coordinator have a QB #?
Zero2Cool (14h) : He's not that great, but final piece of the script.\
Zero2Cool (14h) : If we add Isaiah Simmons, book your Super Bowl tickets
Mucky Tundra (14h) : Colts 1st round TE Tyler Warren also got prank called, was that Jax Ulbrich as well?
Zero2Cool (14h) : Jax Ulbrich, Jeff Ulbrich’s son, released an apology for his role in the Shedeur Sanders prank call.
Martha Careful (15h) : apparently he did not participate in practice or play on the east west shrine game nor the NFL combine. The kid was a mediocre spoiled brat
Mucky Tundra (15h) : Yeah that one that was a super wounded duck that Sanders supporters are highlighting to prove a point
Zero2Cool (15h) : Shough is the guy who missed guys at combine isn't he?
beast (16h) : It's not official until I'm dead! I have a chance still! (Not really)
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : I could feel my body decomposing in real time when I read that
Mucky Tundra (27-Apr) : @MIKEYSAINRISTIL Tyler Shough will officially be the last person drafted to the NFL born in the 1900’s
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : saw the tweet, he meant the city
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : Was that for the team or the city?
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 3m Draft grade is in: Green Bay gets an A. The people, the city, the venue were all superb. NFL Draft’s next
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Matt LaFleur says Jaire Alexander is participating in #Packers offseason program, which has been conducted virtually during this first week
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : ✅ ...
buckeyepackfan (26-Apr) : Check
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Matthew Golden cahanged 81 to 22??
TheKanataThrilla (26-Apr) : Sam Howell to Vikings...guess no Aaron
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : 1 round 7 min, with one extra minute if there is a trade. 2nd round 4 minutes, 3rd -3, 2 thereafter IMO
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Agree
dfosterf (26-Apr) : Great idea imo
dfosterf (26-Apr) : 1st round to 7 minutes with one extension
dfosterf (26-Apr) : NFL comissioner wants to shorten the 2st
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : @jalenreagors They’re discussing if Sheduer can go back to college on NFL Network LMFAOOOOO
beast (26-Apr) : Great point Martha
beast (26-Apr) : Buddy Ryan used to say if a candy bar goes missing, there are two to blame, Rex and Rob 🤪 jk 😁
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Bum Phillips used to say there are two ways to get better. Get better players or get players to play better. We have a new DL coach
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Yes. Look at the losses last year. They can win.
beast (26-Apr) : Can Packers win with their current DL?
bboystyle (26-Apr) : waiting for a pass rusher.
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes between picks in the 3rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 3rd. Hate this phone
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 4rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes in the 4
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 7 minutes between picks in the 2nd round
Martha Careful (25-Apr) : Sorry to bitch, but the headline writers in that section absolutely mislead, or don't know how to read. It is maddening
Martha Careful (25-Apr) : No thanks. Not a dependable guy to be in the right place and run the right route. Dumb as a box of rocks.
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : Losing 2nd round pick for a one year rental, not ideal. Especially a headcase.
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Pickens for Jaire may be interesting. Definitely not sure we want Pickens long term.
dfosterf (25-Apr) : No.Absolutely not
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : NO NO NO NO NO NO!!1 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
dhazer (25-Apr) : scenario: Our main prospects are off the board when our pick comes around, do we just throw a 2nd round pick at Pittsburgh for Pickens
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