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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
NFL.com lists Guy as a DT but Packers.com has him as a DE.
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macbob
13 years ago
DT in 4-3, 5-technique DE in 3-4.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631775/lawrence-guy 

03/28/2011 - Best of defensive line prospects: Lawrence Guy, Arizona State, 6-4, 305, 3...Guy hardly pops off the stat sheet -- he had only 41 tackles last season (six for loss). But that's exactly what makes him a potential sleeper in this class of interior defensive linemen. He has an excellent combination of size, strength and athleticism but was routinely double-teamed at Arizona State because of a lack of supporting talent. Guy also brings versatility as a three-technique tackle in a 4-3 or a five-tech end in a 3-4. Team interviews will also be critical for a prospect who struggled with grades and left school early despite lacking a high grade from the advisory committee.

Overview

Guy signed with Arizona State as a highly-touted prep prospect, turning down the likes of Oklahoma, Oregon, Nebraska and Tennessee, among others. His size and physicality make him one of the better, if more anonymous defensive tackle prospects in the country.

Scouts would have liked to have seen him return for his senior season -- as he's still getting by more on physical talent than technique -- but there is no doubting his ability. Teams operating out of the 3-4 alignment will like his length and strength, as well, as Guy projects nicely as a five-technique defensive end.

Guy's statistics are solid (122 tackles, 23 tackles for loss and eight sacks in 35 games), but not spectacular, leading to some discounting his talents. Don't be surprised when this Sun Devil defensive tackle proves to be anything but just another "Guy" and hears his name called among the top 100 selections.

Analysis

Positives: Rare size. Possesses a quick burst off the snap. Can slide through gaps and disrupt the play before it has a chance to begin. Good strength at the point of attack. Good flexibility and core strength to anchor and create a pile. Flashes an effective spin move, which could be made more effective with the development of other techniques. Good lateral agility and straight-line speed for a man of his size. Possesses a late burst to the ball and can be an explosive hitter. Locates the ball quickly and pursues well. Flashes some nastiness. An ascending player whose best football is still ahead of him. Developed into a leader and high achieving student after early struggles at ASU.

Negatives: Remains a bit raw, technically speaking. Doesn't use his hands very well and can be blocked effectively by smaller, weaker men because of it. Struggles to completely disengage, so he rarely is able to take advantage of his closing burst with a free shot at the quarterback. Diagnosed with dyslexia and attention deficit disorder. Struggled with academics and maturity early in his career at Arizona State.

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Greg C.
13 years ago
It's funny how a lot of times the scouting reports for the lower round picks seem more positive than the ones for higher round picks. Sounds like this guy has a lot of physical talent. Wilson and Wynn played pretty well last year, so maybe he could too.
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13 years ago
It would be interesting to find out why a 7th round pick feels the need to come out early. Especially in a year that was so deep in DLmen. Maybe he felt he would be a 5th round pick?
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musccy
13 years ago

It would be interesting to find out why a 7th round pick feels the need to come out early. Especially in a year that was so deep in DLmen. Maybe he felt he would be a 5th round pick?

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He apparently wasn't too fond of that studying/test taking thing you're supposed to do while in college, but you're right, w/o UDFA right now, the kid was damn near out of luck!
Yerko
13 years ago

It would be interesting to find out why a 7th round pick feels the need to come out early. Especially in a year that was so deep in DLmen. Maybe he felt he would be a 5th round pick?

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He apparently wasn't too fond of that studying/test taking thing you're supposed to do while in college, but you're right, w/o UDFA right now, the kid was damn near out of luck!

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He was diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder and Dyslexia in high school. Eanred a 3.41 GPA in his final semester at ASU as well.

With that being said (with this vid I am watching) he faces a huge challenge. It took him 3 months to learn the ASU playbook. Kid is tough.

Also was a quarterfinalist for the Ronnie Lott Trophy.
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PackerTraxx
13 years ago
TT seems to like guys that have overcome life's challenges, or is it just my imagination. Like this pick also. He appears to have very good measureables for a late round pick.
Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
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13 years ago

Ted Thompson seems to like guys that have overcome life's challenges, or is it just my imagination. Like this pick also. He appears to have very good measureables for a late round pick.

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I think he must. that is probably why he selected Driver. :grin:
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13 years ago
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