macbob
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So, even excluding 2005, when Ted Thompson drafted Aaron Rodgers & Nick Collins, he rates GB as #1 in the draft for the last 5 years. TT's done well trading down to obtain additional picks, with only 1 team (NE) with more picks over that 5 years than the Packers (there's a handfull of teams tied with the Packers).

http://www.csnbayarea.com/04/04/11/Maiocco-Five-year-study-of-NFL-drafts/landing_maiocco_v3.html?blockID=496960&feedID=5936 

The Green Bay Packers and New Orleans Saints have won the past two Super Bowls. It is no coincidence their recent drafts also have been the best in the NFL.

In examining the past five NFL drafts (2006-2010), the correlation is obvious: Teams that win a lot of games draft well. Or, is it teams that draft well win a lot of games?

CSN Bay Area conducted a study of each team's drafts over the past five years. The survey took into consideration, among other factors, where teams selected; how many star players were acquired; booms and busts at the top of the draft; late-round gems; and how the players selected contributed to wins and losses.


Here is how CSN Bay Area ranks, from 1-32, the teams' drafts since 2006:

1. GREEN BAY PACKERS
Number of picks: 47
Still on team: 27
Starters: 11
Best pick: LB Clay Matthews, 2009
Worst pick: DT Justin Harrell, 2007
Overall: In 2005, one year before the five-year window for this evaluation, the Packers got their franchise quarterback with the selection of Aaron Rodgers. The nucleus of their Super Bowl-winning team came through the drafts of the past five years with half of their starters and many other key contributors coming during that period. It's a group on offense that includes receivers Greg Jennings and, non-starter, Jordy Nelson, as well as three starting offensive linemen. General manager Ted Thompson and his crew also bolstered the other side of the ball with Matthews, the runner-up NFL Defensive Player of the Year, nose tackle B.J. Raji and the team's top two tacklers during the regular season, linebackers A.J. Hawk and Desmond Bishop.


2. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
Number of picks: 30
Still on team: 22
Starters: 9
Best pick: G Jahri Evans, 2006
Worst pick: RB Reggie Bush, 2006
Overall: The Saints had two top-10 picks during this five-year period. But they had a lot of success after the third round, too. Defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis, taken No. 7 overall in 2008, has been an outstanding addition. The Saints have been incredibly efficient in the draft with more than two-thirds of their picks remaining on the roster, including nine starters. It says something about the consistency of the Saints' drafts that Bush is their worst pick. Widely believed to be the best player in the 2006 draft, Bush was chosen No. 2 overall. He has produced, but not like you'd expect from the second overall player selected. Evans, and fellow offensive linemen Carl Nicks and Jermon Bushrod were chosen in the fourth and fifth rounds, and receiver Marques Colston was a seventh-rounder in 2006.

3. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
Number of picks: 41
Still on team: 28
Starters: 9
Best pick: S Antoine Bethea, 2006
Worst pick: OT Tony Ugoh, 2007
Overall: In the past five years, the Colts' first selections came at Nos. 31, 27, 59, 32 and 30. Yet, the Colts have done an admirable good job of adding talent and depth to a team that already had championship-caliber nucleus. The Colts have managed to achieve success in the sixth round, with the additions of two-time Pro Bowl safety Antoine Bethea, receiver Pierre Garcon and starting left tackle Charlie Johnson. Their lone early swing-and-miss was Ugoh, chosen No. 42 overall in 2007. He was cut before last season.

4. NEW YORK JETS
Number of picks: 27
Still on team: 17
Starters: 9
Best pick: CB Darrelle Revis, 2007
Worst pick: LB Vernon Gholston, 2008
Overall: The Jets have capitalized on most of their first-round picks. Cornerback Darrelle Revis, chosen No. 14 in 2007, is on a different level than everybody else who plays his position in the league. Revis, left tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson and center Nick Mangold have combined for eight Pro Bowl appearances. The jury is still out on quarterback Mark Sanchez, selected with the fifth overall pick in 2009. He has a 70.2 passer rating in his 31 career starts, but the team around him is the reason they've advanced two the AFC championship game the past two seasons. Gholston was easily the worst selection, as he failed to record a sack in three full seasons and was released in March.

5. ATLANTA FALCONS
Number of picks: 42
Still on team: 26
Starters: 9
Best pick: QB Matt Ryan, 2008
Worst pick: DE Jamaal Anderson, 2007
Overall: The Falcons had bad drafts in 2006 and '07, as their top picks were Anderson and cornerback Jimmy Williams. But since Thomas Dimitroff came on the scene as general manager, things greatly improved. The Falcons selected eight starters over the past three drafts. The selection of Ryan was huge. The Falcons are certain they've found their quarterback of the now future. Dimitroff also selected the Falcons' left tackle Sam Baker and their top three tacklers: Curtis Lofton, Thomas DeCoud and William Moore.

6. BALTIMORE RAVENS
Number of picks: 41
Still on team: 28
Starters: 6
Best pick: NT Haloti Ngata, 2006
Worst pick: WR Yamon Figurs, 2007
Overall: The one time the Ravens selected in the first half of the first round, they could not have done much better. The Ravens selection Ngata, a two-time Pro Bowl performer at a key spot in their 3-4 defense. The selection of quarterback Joe Flacco at No. 18 in 2008 was another strong pick. Flacco has gotten better and better while starting the first 48 games of his career. Running back Ray Rice and offensive linemen Michael Oher and Ben Grubbs have also been good selections. It's difficult to find a bad pick, settling on departed Figurs, a third-round selection in 2007.

7. MINNESOTA VIKINGS
Number of picks: 32
Still on team: 22
Starters: 11
Best pick: RB Adrian Peterson, 2007
Worst pick: CB Marcus McCauley, 2007
Overall: Peterson, Sidney Rice and Percy Harvin have been to Pro Bowls. In fact, Peterson has been to Pro Bowls in his first four seasons after being chosen No. 7 overall in 2007. The Vikings have not missed with their first-round picks. Defensive end Ray Edwards, a fourth-round pick in 2006, has 26.5 sacks over the past four seasons. During this time, McCauley, a third-round pick in 2007, is the only player selected before the fourth round who is no longer on the roster. The only problem with their drafts over the past five years is that they have not set themselves up at quarterback. The Vikings selected Tarvaris Jackson with the 64th pick in 2006, but then opted on luring Brett Favre out of "retirement" the past two years.

8. PITTSBURGH STEELERS
Number of picks: 43
Still on team: 22
Starters: 6
Best pick: LB LaMarr Woodley, 2007
Worst pick: WR Limas Sweed, 2008
Overall: Woodley, a second-round pick in 2007, has recorded 35 sacks the past three seasons. The first-round pick that same year, inside linebacker Lawrence Timmons, led the Steelers in tackle last season. Running back Rashard Mendenhall (No. 23 overall in 2008) rushed for 1,273 yards and 13 touchdowns. Receiver Santonio Holmes, chosen 25th in 2006, ran into problems off the field and was traded to the Jets for a fifth-round pick, but not before supplying a last-minute touchdown catch to win a Super Bowl.

9. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
Number of picks: 51
Still on team: 23
Starters: 7
Best pick: S Brandon Meriweather, 2007
Worst pick: RB Laurence Maroney, 2006
Overall: The Patriots stockpiled picks, and they've generally hit on their early selections. But they haven't had a whole lot of success mining for contributors in the later rounds. Only once during this time did they have top-20 pick, and they nailed it with the selection of Pro Bowl linebacker Jerod Mayo at No. 10 in 2008. Only two of their 19 picks from 2006 and '07 remain on the team: Two-time Pro Bowl safety Brandon Meriweather and kicker Stephen Gostowski, who finished last season on injured reserve. Rookie cornerback Devin McCourty was selected to the Pro Bowl after recording seven interceptions. Tight end Rob Gronkowski had 10 TD receptions as a rookie. Their biggest bust was Maroney. Selected No. 21 overall in 2006, Maroney was traded last year to Denver, along with a sixth-round pick, for a fourth-round selection.

10. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
Number of picks: 42
Still on team: 21
Starters: 9
Best pick: QB Josh Freeman, 2009
Worst pick: DE Gaines Adams, 2007
Overall: First off, Adams' death from cardiac arrest more than a year ago was a tragedy that stunned the NFL. Gaines, the No. 4 overall pick, was traded to the Bears for a second-round selection after two seasons. The Bucs put together a 10-6 season last year with major contributions from some of their quality young players, most notably Freeman. Selected No. 17 overall in the 2009 draft, Freeman appears to be on the path toward becoming one of the best in the NFC. He threw 25 touchdowns and just six interceptions while starting all 16 games. Cornerback Aqib Talib (No. 20 overall in 2008) and guard Davin Joseph (23rd overall in 2006) had strong seasons before finishing on injured reserve.

11. NEW YORK GIANTS
Number of picks: 37
Still on team: 24
Starters: 6
Best pick: RB Ahmad Bradshaw, 2007
Worst pick: CB Aaron Ross, 2007
Overall: The Giants have placed more offensive threats around quarterback Eli Manning with the selections of receivers Mario Manningham (third round, 2008) and Hakeem Nicks (No. 29 overall, 2009) and 1,200-yard rusher Ahmad Bradshaw, a seventh-rounder in 2006. The club got strong initial contributions from the 2007 draft class en route to a stunning Super Bowl run that season. Receiver Steve Smith and fullback Zak DeOssie have been to Pro Bowls, and tight end Kevin Boss' play made Jeremy Shockey expendable. Nose tackle Jay Alford had a sack in that win over the Patriots but was gone after the 2008 season. Ross, the 20th overall pick in '07, has not developed into a reliable corner. Receiver Sinorice Moss, chosen at No. 44 in 2006, was released after 4 1/2 non-productive seasons.

12. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Number of picks: 47
Still on team: 27
Starters: 8
Best pick: WR DeSean Jackson, 2008
Worst pick: DT Trevor Laws, 2008
Overall: The Eagles' top rusher (LeSean McCoy) and top five pass-catcher (McCoy, Jeremy Maclin, Jason Avant, Jackson and Brent Celek) were acquired through the past five drafts, but they've been less-successful finding standouts on their offensive and defensive lines. Their biggest risk paid off, as Andy Reid took a chance on Jackson with the No. 49 overall pick in 2008. Obviously, they've gotten a lot of return on that investment. But two picks earlier they selected Laws, whose increased playing time last year only resulted in 18 tackles -- 22nd on the team. To his credit, he did have four sacks.


13. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Number of picks: 41
Still on team: 22
Starters: 8
Best pick: RB Jamaal Charles, 2008
Worst pick: DE Turk McBride, 2007
Overall: The Chiefs had top-five picks in each of the past three seasons. Defensive linemen Glenn Dorsey and Tyson Jackson have yet to produce as hoped, but safety Eric Berry had a strong rookie season. Outside linebacker Tamba Hali, who had 14.5 sacks last season, and receiver Dwayne Bowe, first-round picks in 2006 and '07, have been outstanding. The Chiefs rode the contributions of such young players as Charles (third-round pick), cornerbacks Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr and Javier Arenas, and left tackle Branden Albert to a surprise AFC West championship last season.

14. HOUSTON TEXANS
Number of picks: 38
Still on team: 29
Starters: 11
Best pick: DE Mario Williams, 2006
Worst pick: OT Charles Spencer, 2006
Overall: The Texans have gotten good production from the top of their draft classes. But it hasn't all gone perfectly, either. Left tackle Duane Brown and linebacker Brian Cushing, first-round picks in 2008 and '09, played very well, but were subsequently suspended for violating the league's policy on performance-enhancing substances. The team went against conventional wisdom to select Williams over Reggie Bush. In hindsight, Williams was clearly the right call. Williams and linebacker DeMeco Ryans, chosen in the second round, have been to two Pro Bowls apiece. Half of their starters have come through the past five drafts, but it hasn't been good enough to get the Texans to the playoffs.

15. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
Number of picks: 34
Still on team: 17
Starters: 7
Best pick: OT Marcus McNeill, 2006
Worst pick: WR Buster Davis, 2007
Overall: Their draft position has not been the greatest because of a combined 50 victories from 2006 to 2010. But the Chargers have landed seven starters via the draft, including left tackle Marcus McNeill, right tackle Jeromey Clary and guard Louis Vasquez on the offensive line. Antoine Cason and Eric Weddle have been good picks for the secondary. But Davis (30th pick in 2007) flamed out, and outside linebacker Larry English, No. 16 in 2009, has yet to produce in two seasons.

16. CHICAGO BEARS
Number of picks: 43
Still on team: 21
Starters: 7
Best pick: WR Devin Hester, 2006
Worst pick: OT Chris Williams, 2008
Overall: Hester, a second-round pick in 2006, has been to three Pro Bowls and was named first-team All Pro three teams, too. He has been one of the most dynamic returners in NFL history. Matt Forte, a 1,000-yard rusher, was selected in the second round in 2008. Their first pick that year, Williams was drafted to be the left tackle of the future. Instead, he's just the left guard of today, as he has fallen far short of expectations. The Bears haven't had a pick within the first two rounds since '08, but they landed Johnny Knox in the fifth round in '09.

17. TENNESSEE TITANS
Number of picks: 47
Still on team: 28
Starters: 11
Best pick: RB Chris Johnson, 2008
Worst pick: RB LenDale White, 2006
Overall: In these five draft classes, there have been five drafted players selected to the Pro Bowl, including rookie return man Marc Mariani, a seventh-round pick. Running back Chris Johnson, selected 24th overall in 2008, has been phenomenal. The Titans got it right the third time, as other RBs they selected in the second round, LenDale White and Chris Henry, were flops. Quarterback Vince Young, the third overall selection in 2006, was twice chosen to the Pro Bowl. But Young's constant drama has not been well-received in Tennessee, and he does not appear to have a future. The Titans drafted aggressive cornerback Cortland Finnegan in the seventh round of '06. Safety Michael Griffin was a good selection at No. 19 in 2007.

18. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
Number of picks: 39
Still on team: 24
Starters: 12
Best pick: LB Patrick Willis, 2007
Worst pick: DT Kentwan Balmer, 2008
Overall: The 49ers accumulated more than half of their starters through the draft in the past five years, but that has not reflected improvement on the field. The main reason is because the 49ers did not acquire standouts at impact positions, such as quarterback, cornerback and pass-rusher. Willis has made four Pro Bowls and first-team All Pro three times. Tight end Vernon Davis has also lived up to expectations as the No. 6 pick in the 2006 draft. The 49ers used three first-round picks and an early second-rounder on the offensive line -- with unclear results. Left tackle Joe Staley had two good seasons and has missed half the games the past two seasons with injuries. Chilo Rachal (No. 39 in 2008) has not consistently produced in his first three seasons. The 49ers took Rachal when DeSean Jackson was still available. (It probably would not have mattered because of the problems elsewhere with the passing game.) It's too early to tell about Anthony Davis and Mike Iupati, first-round picks in 2010. The same can be said about receiver Michael Crabtree. In all, first-year new coach Jim Harbaugh has some talent with which to work. Oddly, defensive lineman Kentwan Balmer (No. 29 in 2008) and running back Glen Coffee (third round) both quit the team last summer. Balmer forced a trade to Seattle, while Coffee retired for religious reasons.

19. DETROIT LIONS
Number of picks: 40
Still on team: 22
Starters: 9
Best pick: DT Ndamukong Suh, 2010
Worst pick: DE Akaika Alama-Francis, 2007
Overall: With just 18 wins over the past five seasons, the Lions are usually picking high in the first round. Receiver Calvin Johnson (No. 2 overall in 2007) and defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh (No. 2 in 2010) have been chosen to Pro Bowls. Quarterback Matthew Stafford (No. 1 in '09) has shown signs of being good, but injuries have limited him in his first two seasons. No players remain from the 2006 draft, and only Johnson and third QB Drew Stanton are still on the team from the eight-player class of '07. Tackle Gosder Cherilus, chosen 17th in 2008, gets an incomplete as durability issues have kept him from developing.

20. CLEVELAND BROWNS
Number of picks: 38
Still on team: 17
Starters: 9
Best pick: LT Joe Thomas, 2007
Worst pick: QB Brady Quinn, 2007
Overall: The Browns have some young talent on this team, with the 2010 additions of Joe Haden and T.J. Ward in the secondary. Third-round selection, quarterback Colt McCoy, had a decent rookie season. Thomas, No. 3 overall in 2007, has been great, earning four Pro Bowl trips in four seasons with two first-team All-Pro honors. Center Alex Mack, chosen 21st overall in '09, has been to a Pro Bowl. The Browns selected receivers Brian Robiskie and Mohamed Massaquoi in the second round in 2009. The biggest problem is has been lack of production from the quarterback. Quinn, chosen No. 22 in 2007, was out after three unproductive seasons. The Browns' selection of Kamerion Wimbley at No. 13 in 2006 was not a horrible call, but the new regime traded him to the Raiders for a third-round pick after he recorded 26.5 sacks in four seasons.

21. OAKLAND RAIDERS
Number of picks: 38
Still on team: 24
Starters: 10
Best pick: TE Zach Miller, 2007
Worst pick: WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, 2009
Overall: The Raiders picked within the first eight each of the five years during this survey. And, yes, we went with Heyward-Bey over quarterback JaMarcus Russell as the team's worst pick. Why? Russell was generally considered the easy top pick for the 2007 draft. The one notable dissenting voice was then-coach Lane Kiffin, who did not want to draft Russell, as Al Davis later admitted. The strangest pick came two years later when the Raiders went off the chart to pick Heyward-Bey with the No. 7 overall pick in '09. Heyward-Bey has 35 catches in 25 starts. Maybe he'll develop into a top-flight pass-catcher, but he's a long way from being even the best receiver on his team. The Raiders also missed on safety Michael Huff (No. 7 in '06). Linebacker Rolando McClain (No. 8 in 2010) was the team's second-leading tackler as a rookie. The Raiders over-drafted safety Mike Mitchell (No. 47 overall in '09), but they've also hit on Darren McFadden (No. 4 overall in '08), as well as Miller (second round, '07). The Raiders had better success in the fourth round with Michael Bush ('07), Tyvon Branch (2008), Louis Murphy ('09) and Jacoby Ford (2010).

22. DENVER BRONCOS
Number of picks: 39
Still on team: 18
Starters: 7
Best pick: DE Elvis Dumervil, 2006
Worst pick: DE Jarvis Moss, 2007
Overall: The Broncos' drafts have been interesting, to say the least. In 2006, first-round pick Jay Cutler was selected No. 11 overall and receiver Brandon Marshall was a fourth-rounder. Both went to Pro Bowls, but clashed with coach Josh McDaniels and were dealt. (McDaniels has since been fired.) Dumervil, a fourth-round pick in '06, recorded 43 sacks in four seasons but missed last year with an injury. The Broncos struck out with defensive ends Jarvis Moss (No. 17 overall) and Tim Crowder (second round) in 2007. Left tackle Ryan Clady was a great pick at No. 12 in '08. And it's too early to tell about the four first-round picks of the past two years: running back Knowshon Moreno, outside linebacker Robert Ayers, receiver Demaryius Thomas and, the boldest pick of all, quarterback Tim Tebow. The Broncos traded a first-round pick in '09 to select cornerback Alphonso Smith. He was at the bottom of the depth chart before he was dealt to Detroit for tight end Dan Gronkowski, a seventh-round pick the same year.

23. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
Number of picks: 37
Still on team: 20
Starters: 9
Best pick: RB Maurice Jones-Drew, 2006
Worst pick: DE Derrick Harvey, 2008
Overall: The Jags have gotten great contributions from the top of their '06 draft class with Jones-Drew, selected near the end of the second round, and tight end Marcedes Lewis, chosen 28th overall, who caught 10 TD passes last season. They missed badly in 2008, as they attempted to upgrade the pass rush. Jacksonville traded up to No. 8 overall to select defensive end Derrick Harvey, who has not been able to hold onto a starting job. They have chosen in the top 10 each of the past three seasons. They boldly selected defensive tackle Tyson Alualu last season, and he had an outstanding rookie season. The Jags selected tackles with their top picks in '09. Eugene Monroe, No. 8 overall in '09, and Eben Britton, a second-rounder, have been up and down.

24. CAROLINA PANTHERS
Number of picks: 42
Still on team: 34
Starters: 13
Best pick: LB Jon Beason, 2007
Worst pick: WR Dwayne Jarrett, 2007
Overall: It's probably not a great thing that they selected running backs in the first round in 2006 (DeAngelo Williams) and 2008 (Jonathan Stewart) when good backs can be found every year in later rounds. The '07 draft netted outstanding players: Beason (No. 25 overall) and center Ryan Kalil (second round). Another second-rounder, receiver Dwayne Jarrett, did not turn out so well. The Panthers did not have a first-round pick the past two years, and there does not appear to be much star quality among their 17 picks those years. It also does not reflect well on the contributions from their draft classes when the Panthers' record dropped from 12-4 in 2008 to 2-14 last season.

25. SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
Number of picks: 37
Still on team: 18
Starters: 7
Best pick: DT Brandon Mebane, 2007
Worst pick: DE Lawrence Jackson, 2008
Overall: Only in the past two seasons did the Seahawks have picks at the top half of the first round. Linebacker Aaron Curry has not made the kind of impact expected of a No. 4 overall selection, but it's much too early to make a judgment on him. Left tackle Russell Okung and safety Earl Thomas were the choices at Nos. 6 and 14 in 2010. Both gave the Seahawks plenty of reason for optimism. Defensive end Lawrence Jackson, taken at No. 28 overall in 2008, was quickly shipped off when his college coach, Pete Carroll, came to the Seahawks. Cornerback Kelly Jennings, 31st overall in 2006, has been a five-year starter. None of the 37 picks during this period has been to a Pro Bowl.

26. MIAMI DOLPHINS
Number of picks: 42
Still on team: 18
Starters: 9
Best pick: OT Jake Long, 2008
Worst pick: WR Ted Ginn, 2007
Overall: Just two of 16 players remain from the 2006 and '07 drafts, including franchise nose tackle Paul Soliai. Long has lived up to expectations as the No. 1 overall pick in 2008 with three Pro Bowl appearances in three seasons. But the Dolphins' recent drafts are littered with players who did not produce the results expected from where they were chosen. Ginn was selected with the ninth overall pick in 2007. After three seasons, he was sent to the 49ers for a fifth-round draft pick. Other disappointments include cornerback Jason Allen (16th in '06), defensive end Phillip Merling (32nd in '08) and second-round quarterbacks John Beck ('07) and Pat White ('09).

27. ST. LOUIS RAMS
Number of picks: 44
Still on team: 23
Starters: 7
Best pick: QB Sam Bradford, 2010
Worst pick: OT Jason Smith, 2009
Overall: This draft grade could look a lot better in the future if Bradford builds on a good rookie season and leads the Rams to the top spot in the NFC West. The Rams also appear to have hit on left tackle Rodger Saffold, the first pick of the second round. Linebacker James Laurinaitis, chosen 35th in 2009, is the Rams' leading tackler. In the three years prior to Bradford's arrival, the Rams' record was 6-42. Tackle Jason Smith, the second pick in '09, has already been moved to right tackle. Defensive lineman Chris Long is a good player, but probably not worthy of the No. 2 overall pick in 2008. The Rams selected defensive lineman Adam Carriker at No. 13 in '07, passing up cornerback Darrelle Revis, whom the Jets took with the next pick. Cornerback Tye Hill, chosen at 15 in 2006, started 21 games in three seasons before getting traded to Atlanta for a seventh-round pick.

28. DALLAS COWBOYS
Number of picks: 41
Still on team: 21
Starters: 3
Best pick: DE Anthony Spencer, 2007
Worst pick: LB Bobby Carpenter, 2006
Overall: No team in the league has netted fewer current starters out of the past five drafts than the Cowboys, who saw their record plunge to 6-10 in 2010. Cornerback Mike Jenkins was added to the Pro Bowl in his second season, but his play fell off dramatically in 2010. The only other Pro Bowl player chosen during this time was kicker Nick Folk, who has since been released. Spencer, chosen 26th in 2007, has been a solid player who has started the past two seasons. Receiver Dez Bryant caught 45 passes for 561 yards and six touchdowns as a rookie before spending final four games in injured reserve.

29. ARIZONA CARDINALS
Number of picks: 34
Still on team: 23
Starters: 8
Best pick: CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, 2008
Worst pick: QB Matt Leinart, 2006
Overall: There have been plenty of misses in the first two rounds, but the Cardinals also picked up some players who contributed to a couple playoff teams and nearly won the Super Bowl. More than two-thirds of their draft picks remain on the roster. But the Cardinals fell off dramatically in 2010 because they had no backup QB to take over after Kurt Warner's retirement. Rodgers-Cromartie, chosen 16th overall in 2008, is the only Pro Bowl player the Cardinals have selected during this time. Running back Beanie Wells' production fell off in his second season due to a knee injury. The Cardinals selected tackle Levi Brown at No. 5 in 2007 when they could've had Adrian Peterson. Brown still has a chance to be a good player. The notable misses are Leinart (No. 10 in 2006), defensive tackle Alan Branch (second round, 2007) and Cody Brown (second round, 2009)

30. CINCINNATI BENGALS
Number of picks: 46
Still on team: 27
Starters: 10
Best pick: CB Johnathan Joseph, 2006
Worst pick: OT Andre Smith, 2009
Overall: The Bengals are one of just three games, joining the Seahawks and Rams, who have not sent a drafted player of the past five years to a Pro Bowl. Smith has a tumultuous lead-up to the 2009 draft, and the Bengals still chose him at No. 6 overall. Plagued by foot injuries, Smith has started five games in two seasons. Linebacker Keith Rivers, No. 9 in 2008, certainly is nowhere near Jerod Mayo, whom the Patriots took one spot later. On the bright side, the Bengals' top picks of '06 and '07, cornerbacks Joseph and Leon Hall, have easily been the highlights of this bleak five-year period.

31. WASHINGTON REDSKINS
Number of picks: 33
Still on team: 16
Starters: 6
Best pick: DE Brian Orakpo, 2009
Worst pick: WR Devin Thomas, 2008
Overall: The Redskins have compiled one winning season during this time, yet fewer than 50 percent of their draft picks remain on the roster. Brian Orakpo, the 13th pick in 2009, has 19.5 sacks in two seasons and is clearly the best selection during this period. Safety LaRon Landry, No. 6 in 2007, has not lived up to his lofty draft status with four interceptions in four seasons. The Redskins picked receivers Thomas and Malcolm Kelly in the second round of '08, with zero results to show for it. Tackle Trent Williams had a rough rookie season, but it's much too early to write him off.

32. BUFFALO BILLS
Number of picks: 43
Still on team: 23
Starters: 8
Best pick: CB Jairus Byrd, 2009
Worst pick: DE Aaron Maybin, 2009
Overall: Especially considering where the Bills have selected these five years, their drafts have been dreadful. They made a huge error in 2009, selecting Maybin two spots ahead of pass rusher Brian Orakpo. Maybin has yet to record a sack in 26 career games. The Bills took Marshawn Lynch at No. 12 in 2007, but traded him for two late-round selections after taking another running back, C.J. Spiller, who might not even be an every-down back, at No. 9 overall last year. The Bills have gotten nothing from defensive tackle John McCargo, the 26th pick in the 2006 draft. Receiver James Hardy, selected No. 41 overall in 2008, caught 10 passes in two years and was released. Byrd made a nice impact as a rookie with nine interceptions, but managed just one in his second season.

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Tezzy
13 years ago
I am still trying to understand how they rank the Bears 16th. Boggles my mind. Going to forward this along to all the Chicago media outlets and see how they react. I expect a lot of guffawing.
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rabidgopher04
13 years ago
Interesting to see how much ink was spilled a few years ago about some of these busts like Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush, Ted Ginn, and Vernon Gholston. These guys were all supposed to be the next coming of Jesus Christ (in football) and they haven't amounted to very much at all. Is Leinart even in the league anymore?
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macbob
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13 years ago

I am still trying to understand how they rank the Bears 16th. Boggles my mind. Going to forward this along to all the Chicago media outlets and see how they react. I expect a lot of guffawing.

"Tezzy" wrote:



It could be that they're factoring in somewhat the record (47-33) over the last 5 years and two trips to the NFC Championship game (& 1 trip to the Super Bowl), or the fact that the Bears didn't have a 1st or 2nd round pick last year. In any event, from a pure draft perspective, I'd have put the next two teams at a minimum (Tenn & SF) higher on the list than Chicago.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Interesting to see how much ink was spilled a few years ago about some of these busts like Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush, Ted Ginn, and Vernon Gholston. These guys were all supposed to be the next coming of Jesus Christ (in football) and they haven't amounted to very much at all. Is Leinart even in the league anymore?

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It's not often I'm right about college players, but I nailed Reggie Bush's career to this point. What got me pissed was folks saying he was the next "Barry Sanders". So I paid attention to him and noticed he couldn't run up the middle. He was a fast as lightning player that had to get to the edge to be a threat. I said he couldn't be an every down back, that he wasn't going to be durable and that he was going to be a better 'slash' type player than RB.

I think he's been more durable than I was expecting, but he sure as shit is not the next Barry Sanders!
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While it is nice to see GB and Ted get the recognition for a job well done, it is still too early to evaluate in totality the players selected in 2009 and 2010. It would make more sense to add 2004 and 2005 to the equation if they want 5 years and then give an incomplete for the last two drafts.
The Lions best selection is Suh. If he injures his knee and has to retire would they still feel that way? While it is not fair for me to play the "what if something bad happens to a player" game it is equally unfair to look at this past season and assume the players will preform in the same manner over their whole career. On the other hand some players take longer to get a shot at doing something. And it is easy to look at their first few years and see that they were not starting and thus not contributing and assume they will never amount to much. Bishop, Peprah and even Grant have proven that is not always the case.
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Mucky Tundra (23-Sep) : Martha, they did play much better with Dalton yesterday
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Mucky Tundra (22-Sep) : *without
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Mucky Tundra (22-Sep) : Gonna need a drink after looking at my picks for the early games in Pick'em
Zero2Cool (22-Sep) : James Jones. Y’all must not know, Dr. Mackenzie🤣 he was not going to let Jordan love play today.
Zero2Cool (22-Sep) : Malik to start. Love inactive. Per report. Let's go!!
buckeyepackfan (22-Sep) : I think J-10VE will be inactive, a little twist that could be put in is run a wildcat with Wicks at qb. Have him as emergency qb if needed.
Zero2Cool (21-Sep) : I think that's how it works.
Zero2Cool (21-Sep) : I'd go 3 QB regardless this game.
Zero2Cool (21-Sep) : Clifford was elevated, not activated. He doesn't play, it doesn't count.
hardrocker950 (21-Sep) : If Clifford is active, not likely to see Jordan play this weekend
Mucky Tundra (21-Sep) : QB Sean Clifford and CB Robert Rochell elevated from the PS for the Titans game
Zero2Cool (20-Sep) : Love questionable. Morgan is out. Valentine is doubtful
Martha Careful (20-Sep) : Rodgers and Lazard off to a very strong start
Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : Josh Jacobs. Limited.
Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : Can't find anything on Jacobs :(
wpr (19-Sep) : Do you know if they gave Jacobs an extra day off? I hope so.
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Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : Packers are in pads and so is Jordan Love. Second straight day of practice for QB1.
bboystyle (18-Sep) : If Love comes back, we win in a blow out
Zero2Cool (18-Sep) : Jordan Love just spoke with reporters and said he’s giving himself the week but hopeful to play Sunday against the Titans.
Zero2Cool (18-Sep) : Practicing is Jordan Love!
Zero2Cool (18-Sep) : Packers are signing WR Cornelius Johnson to the Practice Squad per sources. Johnson was a 7th round pick this year.
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Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : Or is that the Rusty Red Rifle because of his age?
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Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : bears still have slim chance here
Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : and there's another one!
Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : oh crap macbob has the Texans K and he keeps hitting these long FGs
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