Zero2Cool
14 years ago
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/tim_layden/01/28/rodgers/index.html#ixzz1CSRj7Uzk 

[img_r]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2011/writers/tim_layden/01/28/rodgers/young-montana.jpg[/img_r]GREEN BAY -- Back in the spring and summer of 2008, Aaron Rodgers was still an unproven curiosity. He had been drafted 24th overall out of Cal by the Packers three years earlier (after an long, embarrassing wait in the Draft Green Room, video of which Rodgers has never watched, because, in his words, "I don't have to; I was there.'') and in those ensuing three seasons had thrown just 59 passes. His experience seems almost old school at this point, with rookie QBs now being regularly force fed (Sam Bradford, Josh Freeman, Matt Ryan, among others).

But that was, in fact, Rodgers's experience. He was the quarterback-in-waiting who might turn out to be Drew Brees or Cade McNown. Nobody knew for sure. And that was the easy part. He had been sitting in Green Bay behind Favre and here in '08 a spectacular soap opera had been unfolding. Favre was staying. Favre was retiring. Favre was being forced to retire. Favre would be made Rodgers's backup. The fan base was splintered. Rodgers, who just wanted to play, was stuck in the middle, a supporting player in a bizarre Favre World production (the first of many, as it turns out). It wasn't until seven days into August of that year that Favre was traded to the Jets and Rodgers fully became the starter.

A potentially great player replacing a legend in a city where the legend was beloved, inducing a civic and national drama? It was almost unique to the game. Almost. Two decades earlier, Steve Young had been through almost the same thing as Joe Montana's replacement with the 49ers. "It was pretty obvious that Aaron's experience and mine were going to dovetail at some point,'' says Young. And Rodgers knew it. He was a smart kid from Chico in northern California. He had watched (and loved) Montana. He had watched (and loved) Young. He knew the story. So he reached out.

"I think you can always learn from people,'' says Rodgers. ``I asked my agent to get Steve's number.''

Rodgers retold the story this week while sitting at his dressing cubicle in the Packers' locker room at Lambeau Field. Three years is a long time. Rodgers is no longer a curiosity. He will be the Packers' starting quarterback against the Steelers in the Super Bowl, and in three seasons and one remarkable postseason he has ascended to the level of the best quarterbacks in the game. But in '08, he needed counsel from someone who could understand his circumstances.

"I had always been a fan of Steve's,'' says Rodgers. "And back then, it seemed like he was somebody who would know exactly what I was going through. It's turned out that there were a lot of very similar stories from early in our careers.''

Young played one season in the doomed (but in his case, lucrative) USFL and two with the Bucs before coming to the 49ers in 1987, where he spent four seasons as Montana's backup. There are some differences in their career paths: Young was 30 when he succeeded Montana, who has injured. Rodgers was 25 when he took over for Favre, who was traded. And: "Aaron never had to play with Brett standing on the sidelines watching him,'' says Young, who played in front of Montana in 1992. But in other fundamental ways, they are mirror images.[img_r]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2011/writers/tim_layden/01/28/rodgers/rodgers-favre.jpg[/img_r]

"You're an NFL quarterback, so there are very few other human beings who share that perspective,'' says Young, now 49 and working as an analyst for ESPN. "Then when you look at the specifics of Aaron's situation, the number of people who share that situation really starts to dwindle, who you can talk to and who can understand what you're going through.''

When they first communicated in '08, Rodgers laid out his issues for Young. "Basically what he said to me,'' says Young, "Was this: 'How did you deal with the rigors of having somebody like Brett -- in my case it was Joe -- being the king that he was and how he dominated the locker room conversations and day to day life around the team? Now I'm the quarterback and I'm trying to make a place for myself. How did you get through all that? How did you make sense of it?''

Young's most forceful advice was that Rodgers, essentially, keep his emotions in check. Don't criticize teammates or complain about the difficulty of walking in Favre's shoes. Don't throw anybody under the bus. Suck it up.

"I told that him what's really important,'' says Young, "is never, ever allow yourself the cheap thrill of saying something just to make yourself feel better for a moment because something is unfair or not right. That always backfires on you. It never works out in the long run. And I'll tell you what: I've given that advice to other people and they have not heeded it, because it's hard. But Aaron, he absolutely took the high road. He's managed through a tough situation in a really gracious, awesome way. There are things that he went through that no one knows about. Just do your job. Play football. And the benefits are great when you just hang tough. Don't play the victim. Don't complain.''

The Packers went an injury-riddled 6-10 in Rodgers's first year. Pressure mounted. The Pack went 11-5 last year, but lost twice to Favre and Vikings -- home and away -- and lost in the first round of the NFC playoffs (a game in which Rodgers was brilliant) while the Vikings went to overtime in the NFC title game. More pressure. Still Rodgers stayed cool. This year the Packers overcame 15 players on injured reserve, a negligible running game for stretches of the season, and reached the Super Bowl. Rodgers has been transcendent in the postseason.

Rodgers's maturity -- and, let's be honest, his production -- won the Green Bay locker room a long time ago. Players measure history when they're finished playing. Today they play in the present. Packers' veteran wideout Donald Drivers remembers telling Rodgers back in '08, "You know something? You handled this better than anybody else in this locker room would have handled it. Because when you're following in somebody else's shadow, it's so hard to overcome that. When I first came in, people said to me, `Donald, you remind me of Robert Brooks. But I said I don't want to be in the shadow of Robert Brooks. And that's Aaron's attitude right now.''

Rodgers has achieved this much as Young directed, without engaging in drama or controversy, without seeking empathy as he learned the nuances of his work. "I still routinely bounce things off Steve,'' says Rodgers. "He's a great reference for me. So many very similar situations, even now.''

There could be one more. Only once in NFL history has a Hall of Fame quarterback been succeeded by another Hall of Fame quarterback: Montana followed by Young. "I think Brett and Aaron will be the second,'' says Young. "[Rodgers] has a long way to go still, but that's the trajectory he's on.''

"Tim Layden" wrote:




Okay, folks ... lets get this out of our system. 🙂
UserPostedImage
Kingkoopa
14 years ago
Thanks for posting, great article, but I'm so sick and tired of the Favre-Rodgers talk. The Packers need to win on Sunday so this talk can die once and for all. I fear if we lose that we will constantly hear, "Rodgers can't win the big one".
blank
Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
I thought Rodgers was ready to start in '07. I thought he was a better option and would throw fewer critical Ints.

Too bad Favre didn't retire gracefully in '05 or '06. People could still like him and cheer for Rodgers without all this angst and acrimony.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
zombieslayer
14 years ago
Win a SB and it will be out of our system. I know this first hand. Was in SF for the Joe vs Steve fights.

You people in Green Bay think your situation is unique?
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
macbob
14 years ago

Win a SB and it will be out of our system. I know this first hand. Was in SF for the Joe vs Steve fights.

You people in Green Bay think your situation is unique?

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Zombie-I figured it was over earlier this season, when the Packers were playing the Vikes.

Let me set the scenario: My 14-year old boy was watching the game in his Favre jersey (keep in mind, Favre was the QB of the Packers since he had been born, he had seen all of the drama of Favre losing his dad, which hit close to home emotionally, etc). He said going into the game that he hoped the Packers would win, but Favre would play well.

Favre got drilled on one play where he dropped back to pass, and my little boy jumped up and yelled "Take that, Favre!". If HE had gotten over it, I figured it was pretty much a dead horse at that point.
zombieslayer
14 years ago


Zombie-I figured it was over earlier this season, when the Packers were playing the Vikes.

Let me set the scenario: My 14-year old boy was watching the game in his Favre jersey (keep in mind, Favre was the QB of the Packers since he had been born, he had seen all of the drama of Favre losing his dad, which hit close to home emotionally, etc). He said going into the game that he hoped the Packers would win, but Favre would play well.

Favre got drilled on one play where he dropped back to pass, and my little boy jumped up and yelled "Take that, Favre!". If HE had gotten over it, I figured it was pretty much a dead horse at that point.

"macbob" wrote:



I'm just speaking from experience. The things said about Steve over here pale in comparison to what has been said about Aaron. '94 changed everything. When Steve emerged with a Lombardi Trophy, everyone in SF was in his corner.

Funny story about your son though.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (48m) : is 2 preseason games enough for bubble guys to make a mark?
packerfanoutwest (7h) : true.forgot about that
Zero2Cool (9h) : Unless they reduce preseason from three to two games.
packerfanoutwest (9h) : If Goodell allows an 18 game season, there will be a SB on Valentines Day
Zero2Cool (10h) : Perfect football player. - Ron Wolf on Sharpe
Zero2Cool (10h) : Sharpe didn't celebrate TD's ... crazy I didn't realize it back then
Martha Careful (7-Feb) : Congratulations Sterling Sharpe
Mucky Tundra (7-Feb) : beast, you didn't miss much with that one. Raiders didn't update their play calls, audibles etc so the Bucs D steamrolled
buckeyepackfan (6-Feb) : That was quick, one thing Jordan said was he doesn't agree with Josh Jacobs, that the Packers need to go get a proven #1 wr
buckeyepackfan (6-Feb) : J-10VE on ESPN NOW!
beast (6-Feb) : I was young and didn't get enough sleep... fell asleep during the Buccaneers/Raiders Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (5-Feb) : Patriots / Panthers feeling is what I got. didn't watch that one either
Zero2Cool (5-Feb) : Easier to get a camera on her in the suite where she can't impact the game by being distraction???
TheKanataThrilla (5-Feb) : This is the least excited I have been in a long time for a Super Bowl. Unfortunately they both can't lose.
wpr (5-Feb) : So why don;'t they have her on the sidelines and doing the halftime fandango instead of sitting on her but in a $1,000,000 suite?
Zero2Cool (5-Feb) : Think more eyes on Super Bowl with Swift fans pulling for her TE boyfriend?
Zero2Cool (5-Feb) : She dating the TE of the Chiefs.
Zero2Cool (5-Feb) : Taylor Swift has millions of fans, yeah?
Zero2Cool (5-Feb) : They did. They are going to show the post production Sunday with plethora of ads.
wpr (5-Feb) : I thought KC already won
Zero2Cool (4-Feb) : If you wanna post about the Super Bowl, please, by all means, open a topic. They are free this month! 😁
Zero2Cool (4-Feb) : There doesn't need to be a topic. There's a playoff prediction thread.
packerfanoutwest (4-Feb) : and there no SB contest over in the other Packer forum, either
buckeyepackfan (4-Feb) : #2Officially Retires!
beast (4-Feb) : Probably no SB topic as people are wore out talking about the Chiefs, Refs and Eagles
Zero2Cool (4-Feb) : Packers reportedly have their new LB coach, promoting Sean Duggan to that role
Zero2Cool (4-Feb) : WR Cooper Kupp is being traded.
packerfanoutwest (4-Feb) : why is there no SB Prediction topic?
Zero2Cool (3-Feb) : Anthony Perkins spent 2024 as a defensive quality-control coach with the Packers.
Zero2Cool (3-Feb) : Packers lose another assistant.
Zero2Cool (3-Feb) : Defensive Player of the Year and Browns star Myles Garrett has requested a trade.
Zero2Cool (3-Feb) : deleted all my browser history and autofill and passwords. gonna be fun!
packerfanoutwest (3-Feb) : too funny
packerfanoutwest (3-Feb) : Lions QB Jared Goff was the offensive MVP
packerfanoutwest (3-Feb) : for the Pro Bowl, which is flag football
Zero2Cool (2-Feb) : Rather, the murder WAS covered up to prevent ...
Zero2Cool (2-Feb) : JFK murder was a cover-up to prevent war with Cuba/Russia.
Martha Careful (1-Feb) : I have always admired the pluck of the man
Zero2Cool (1-Feb) : I remember thinking he was going to be something good.
Mucky Tundra (1-Feb) : The Dualing Banjo!
Zero2Cool (31-Jan) : Jets have named Chris Banjo as their special teams coordinator, Former Packers player
Zero2Cool (31-Jan) : Jaguars have hired Anthony Campanile as their DC. We lose coach
Zero2Cool (30-Jan) : QB coach Sean Mannion
Zero2Cool (30-Jan) : DL Coach DeMarcus Covington
dfosterf (30-Jan) : from ft Belvoir, Quantico and points south. Somber reminder of this tragedy at Reagan Nat Airport
dfosterf (30-Jan) : So eerily quiet here in Alexandria. I live in the flight path of commercial craft coming from the south and west, plus the military craft
dfosterf (30-Jan) : So eeri
Mucky Tundra (30-Jan) : Now that's a thought, maybe they're looking at the college ranks? Maybe not head coaches but DC/assistant DCs with league experience?
beast (30-Jan) : College Coaches wouldn't want that publicly, as it would hurt recruiting and they might not get the job.
beast (30-Jan) : I thought they were supposed to publicly announce them, at least the NFL ones. Hafley was from college, so I believe different rules.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

7-Feb / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

7-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

6-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

4-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

4-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

4-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

4-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

1-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

1-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

29-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

27-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.