Zero2Cool
14 years ago

WITH the Mike McCarthy QB school, Alex Smith would probably be as good as Rodgers, imo.



That made me laugh, good stuff.
Pack93z
14 years ago

Without the Mike McCarthy QB school, Aaron Rodgers may or may not be what he is today. WITH the Mike McCarthy QB school, Alex Smith would probably be as good as Rodgers, imo.

"nerdmann" wrote:



With this logic.. let the bidding begin for Flynn.. better get in early because MM coached him up and it is just a matter of time before he becomes Arod II. ;)

Next up.. Starks in three games has rendered Grant jobless. lol.
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Since69
14 years ago
TT had nothing to lose by waiting those 10 minutes. Why wouldn't he? Seems perfectly in accordance with his personality.
Pack93z
14 years ago

Ted Thompson had nothing to lose by waiting those 10 minutes. Why wouldn't he? Seems perfectly in accordance with his personality.

"Since69" wrote:



I am sure that is almost standard op procedure for that cat.. leave all options open as long as possible.. then strike.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
dfosterf
14 years ago

Without the Mike McCarthy QB school, Aaron Rodgers may or may not be what he is today. WITH the Mike McCarthy QB school, Alex Smith would probably be as good as Rodgers, imo.

"Pack93z" wrote:



With this logic.. let the bidding begin for Flynn...

"nerdmann" wrote:



There was an article about a week ago in (what I thought was) Sprorts Illustrated. I say "thought", because I went back the next day to try and find it, but couldn't. Then I thought that maybe it was ESPN.com--couldn't find it there, either...

ANYWAY-- The article was a front pager describing "slim pickings" for QB's this year if you are a team in need of one.

Flynn was discussed. His game against the Pats and the reputation of the Packers coaching staff with young QB's (positive reputation)...

SEEMED to indicate , from memory mind you, that Flynn was in the 2nd round to 3rd round pick ( in trade) arena. I think Kolb was the big subject, and how the Eagles thought he was worth two 1sts last year, etc.

ANYWAY--If someone can discern what the hell I'm talking about article-wise, this would be a good spot for it if you read it and can find it. :geek:
peteralan71
14 years ago
Heh....he's goooooood.
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14 years ago

Without the Mike McCarthy QB school, Aaron Rodgers may or may not be what he is today. WITH the Mike McCarthy QB school, Alex Smith would probably be as good as Rodgers, imo.

"dfosterf" wrote:



With this logic.. let the bidding begin for Flynn...

"Pack93z" wrote:



There was an article about a week ago in (what I thought was) Sprorts Illustrated. I say "thought", because I went back the next day to try and find it, but couldn't. Then I thought that maybe it was ESPN.com--couldn't find it there, either...

ANYWAY-- The article was a front pager describing "slim pickings" for QB's this year if you are a team in need of one.

Flynn was discussed. His game against the Pats and the reputation of the Packers coaching staff with young QB's (positive reputation)...

SEEMED to indicate , from memory mind you, that Flynn was in the 2nd round to 3rd round pick ( in trade) arena. I think Kolb was the big subject, and how the Eagles thought he was worth two 1sts last year, etc.

ANYWAY--If someone can discern what the hell I'm talking about article-wise, this would be a good spot for it if you read it and can find it. :geek:

"nerdmann" wrote:


Not in SI magazine maybe it was online.
Greg C.
14 years ago
Interesting that Brandt said Rodgers' talent jumped out at everyone right from the first minicamp practice. I thought he looked good in his first preseason, especially the arm strength and mobility. He just needed to learn the offense. I think his intelligence may have actually made him look worse that first year, because he really wanted to get the offense down, and he was taking a long time to make his reads. When he began to master the offense in his second year, he was already showing flashes of the QB he would eventually become.

I think the credit for his development goes WAY more to Rodgers himself than to McCarthy. The QB has to have the tools and the motivation to develop them. Good coaches do make a difference, but ultimately it is up to the players to be the best they can be.
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dfosterf
14 years ago
Thank you for looking Wayne---man, I was geezin'--

It was in NFL.com

NFL.com ...slim qb market several teams in need... 

...Flynn has an even smaller sample size than Kolb. One regular season game. But it was a big one, a Sunday night matchup on the road against the Patriots with Rodgers out with a concussion. Flynn suffered from some clock-management issues, as any novice would, but more than held his own. Packers coach Mike McCarthy is very much in that Andy Reid QB guru mold, which helps Flynn's stock as well. Yes, he was just a seventh-round pick in 2008, but he has showed well in the preseason and just look at Rodgers and Hasselbeck for evidence of how Green Bay understudies can fare. One GM, when seeing what San Diego got for Charlie Whitehurst, and New England got for Cassel, estimated that a second-round pick for Flynn might not be out of the question.

"The problem is he's only played one game, but you know Green Bay values him," the GM said. "It would probably take someone that really knows the kid to go out and trade for him. It's like with Cassel, where (Scott) Pioli knew him (Pioli was with New England with Cassel). So where could Flynn go?

"Seattle, with John Schneider (the Seahawks GM was a former executive with the Packers) would be a logical choice. He's not afraid to trade for a quarterback (acquired Whitehurst a year ago). I know he likes Flynn. It's going to take somebody who really knows him inside and out."



Furthermore, with San Francisco and Seattle potentially both in the market for some of the same quarterbacks, the demand to land one or the other could rise.

Whitehurst, as one scout put it, "looks like a dear in the headlights," and as well as Hasselbeck played against the Saints, his body is clearly breaking down and his status seems perpetually week-to-week. Some execs believe the Whitehurst deal could make Seattle hesitant to strike again, and one NFC West executive wondered if Hasselbeck's playoff performance might pressure the Seahawks into keeping him (a scenario the division rival seemed to be rooting for, quite honestly).

The Seahawks are trying to build a championship-level squad and with Sam Bradford and the Rams taking major steps, they're going to need stability at the QB position for years to come. No one wheels and deals like the Seahawks. I don't rule this kind of move out at all.

Orton could end up linked with his old coach, Josh McDaniels (more on that later), depending on where he lands as an offensive coordinator. I also can't help but wonder whether Minnesota coach Leslie Frazier gleaned anything from McDaniels about Orton when he interviewed him for their OC job last week. We don't know exactly what offense the Vikings will run, as they rework the staff. But Orton has played in their division, and the execs I spoke to don't believe the Broncos will get more than a third-round pick for him.

"Of Kolb, Flynn and Orton, the guy I'd target is Orton," one NFC executive said. "He's been productive and he's more polished and you can get him cheaper."



Kyle Orton "cheaper" than Matt Flynn. I'd call that interesting. :thumbleft:
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