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go.pack.go.
14 years ago
I say just be thankful that Jay Cutler is not our QB. He is the biggest bitch I've ever seen. I can't stand him.
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DanJustDan29
14 years ago
I bet Aaron Rodgers doesn't even celebrate Christmas. ASS
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peteralan71
14 years ago

I bet Aaron Rodgers doesn't even celebrate Christmas. ASS

"DanJustDan29" wrote:



I love it when people overreact like this to give a little comic relief, lol.
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bozz_2006
14 years ago



I love it when people overreact like this to give a little comic relief, lol.

"peteralan71" wrote:



Comic relief? If I wanted a laugh I'd follow you into the bathroom and watch you take a leak.
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peteralan71
14 years ago



I love it when people overreact like this to give a little comic relief, lol.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



Comic relief? If I wanted a laugh I'd follow you into the bathroom and watch you take a leak.

"peteralan71" wrote:



A baby dick is a disability, man! You wouldn't make fun of a guy in a wheelchair!!!!!!!!!!!
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Green Bay quarterback Rodgers expresses frustration on field 

By Tom Silverstein of the Journal Sentinel Dec. 8, 2010

Green Bay Peyton Manning does it often. Tom Brady does it once in awhile. Brett Favre almost never does it.

Getting on your teammates for mental mistakes is something every quarterback has done, but only some can actually do it and not risk mutiny within the ranks. Guys with the cachet of Manning, Brady and Favre could take a belt to offenders at the 50-yard line and no one would blink an eye.

On Sunday against San Francisco, Aaron Rodgers was very demonstrative in pointing out mental errors, dressing down fullback Quinn Johnson, chirping at tight end Andrew Quarless and in one instance, seemingly getting irate with wide receiver Donald Driver.

Many a quarterback has blown off steam, but most have been careful to contain it.

"I think as a quarterback and as a leader, you have to find ways to get through to your teammates," Rodgers said. "Some guys do better with a confrontation, some guys with a pat on the butt, some guys a one-on-one sit-down. I'm an emotional player, and sometimes I share my emotions on the field, sometimes I share them in public.

"But I think some of the mistakes we've been making are so correctable, it's often most frustrating when I know those are mistakes that shouldn't happen. And when you're playing a tight game, you can't have alignment mistakes."

Rodgers was speaking more of the mistakes Quarless, a rookie, and Johnson, a second-year player made. Rodgers patted Johnson on the helmet after chewing him out.

As for the other instance, it turned out the swinging of his arm in total frustration was not aimed at Driver, an 11-year veteran who was unable to catch up to a ball thrown over his head in the corner of the end zone.

But it sure seemed that way from afar.

And sometimes perception is as bad as reality. It's not a good idea to show up a guy as revered as Driver, even if that wasn't what you intended to do.

Rodgers wouldn't say at whom he was gesturing, but receiver Greg Jennings was on the same side as Driver, was a little late off the ball after going in motion and may have taken the route inside instead of outside. So it could have been Jennings. And if it wasn't Jennings, then it was someone on the sideline.

On the very next play, Rodgers had to call a timeout because Quarless apparently wasn't lined up right.

"Sometimes I say things," Rodgers said. "I guess it's frustrating when it's a little thing and it shouldn't be an issue, I think. You're probably talking about me getting on Quinn a little bit when he couldn't line up in the right spot. To me, that goes back to preparation.

"To me, physical mistakes are going to happen. They just are. I'm going to throw a bad ball, guys are going to drop passes, might not be able to make a play at some point. But the mental stuff, I just have a really hard time with that. Because I just feel like the preparation should be the most important thing for these guys."

Driver said he accepts Rodgers for the kind of person he is. He admitted Rodgers is cocky, "but in a good way."

"I'm cocky," Driver said. "It goes hand in hand. I think I'm one of the best. He thinks he's one of the best quarterbacks. That's pretty good."

When he first got to Green Bay, Rodgers had to learn some hard lessons about humility and respect. He has admitted that he probably was too cocky and that it was important for him to pull back on some of the bad body language he displayed when things went wrong.

Remnants of that guy are visible at times, sometimes with the way he'll argue with officials trying to get calls. He's not the only quarterback to beg for an opponent to be called for a hit to his head or pass interference downfield.

It's possible officials don't give him the calls they give veterans because he hasn't earned it. At his peak, Favre could have someone brush against him after he had thrown the ball and a late hit would be called.

Rodgers hasn't reached that stature.

It stands to reason that if the Packers were 4-8 instead of 8-4, teammates would be less accepting of Rodgers' demonstrations on the field. But the Packers are 8-4, and Rodgers said he's trying to display the leadership people expect from a star quarterback, even if in some cases it has more to do with how you play than what you say.

Rodgers wants everyone to be as prepared as he is.

"Guys know what they're going to get with me and they know how hard I prepare and how bad I want to win," Rodgers said. "I just have a hard time with a lot of mental mistakes. I'm going to try not to be demonstrative, but it's frustrating at times when there are correctable things and there's things that can affect the game's outcome that a lot of times go back to practice and preparation."


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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Not to make this about Brett, but that first line is a crock of crap. He used to get on Freeman, Schroeder, and Franks quite often and those are just the first three that come to mind.
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warhawk
14 years ago
Rodgers is the leader out there and that job isn't easy or for a guy that takes the role of making sure everybody is on the same page. He's demanding but I see no player showing anything but respect for him. These are big boys and if they can't take it when he gets on them when it's justified then I say tough.

You want him to lead or what? I don't think he's over the top by any means and I am sure every player out there knows he better be assignment sure or they are going to hear about it.

There are games the guy gets drilled repeatedly out there and he just goes back to the huddle and calls another play. If these guys can't line up right or run the proper route or miss their assignment he's more than earned the right to let them know that is not good enough.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
warhawk, how much do you want to bet that if Rodgers just smiled at all of the drops or wrong route running that those claiming he's a whiny baby would say he needs to be more of a leader and get the men in line?
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14 years ago

warhawk, how much do you want to bet that if Rodgers just smiled at all of the drops or wrong route running that those claiming he's a whiny baby would say he needs to be more of a leader and get the men in line?

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Making sure it is my opinion is clear.. however when I blast Mike McCarthy for not holding players accountable in pressers or on the sideline.. I am unrealistic in my expectations and there is some sort of restriction upon that.. lol.

I am rolling in laughter because Aaron has become Brett of the 90's again.. better not note anything about him that isn't shaded in pure gold.

The simple point is.. if the Green Bay beat writers are writing it.. those national bums will be following.. queue a PFtalk post. ;)



Well what is there to say when there isn't anything negative to talk about right?

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Not sure if that is a personal comment or not with the quote.. but whatever. I will interpret the intended meaning of my opening post.. because apparently it was lost in daring to question Rodgers or I made the point poorly.

Since when is an observation.. stating that there is a fine line between effective leadership and going to far being nothing but negative or complaining?

especially the phantom swing and look after the overthrow in the corner of the endzone.. Rodgers is starting to walk a fine line between being a leader and being a whinny "Payton like" jackass.

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Interpretation.. there is a fine line between leader and whinnying in the public eye.

I don't have much issue with the Johnson or Quarless rips because of mistakes.. but you can start to see him become animated and reactionary towards others even when it was his error.



Interpretation..Get on guys when they make those mental mistakes.. but when you throw it well over the receivers head, why come off as you want to tear him a new one.

The throw to Driver was his error.. one of few.. but body language speaks a ton.



Interpretation.. Rodgers played nearly a flawless game.. again.. why the look of "why the hell wasn't that caught?" to Driver that actually should have maybe been a little pissed that he worked open only to see the ball rocket over his head. It was a physical mistake.. those happen in games all the time.

This isn't the first time, but the most noticeable to date. Tread lightly my friend...



Interpretation.. This isn't the first time actions like this have been noticeable.. so Aaron walk that public rope lightly. You have lead this team effectively and proudly so.. just don't take it too far.

I don't understand how any of that is negative or complaining.. more something that was noticeable from the armchair.. and by the example of Mr. Regular Season is a bit unbecoming.

The whinny "Payton like" jackass... was intended to be over the top... as many can relate to the analogy effectively.. because we have seen it many times from Peyton.. coming off as a crybaby with a finger pointing in another direction.

I don't think Aaron is even in the same light as #18.. but I don't think that line from one to the other is all that great.

Aaron has worked damn hard to get himself and this team to this point.. I would hate to see the masses start to color him with that Peyton trait.

And Evad.. I think the Colts players put on a good face when talking about Peyton.. but can you really respect someone that erupts almost everytime things don't break his way? I hardly call the a great leader.. and I think there is a reason he has one SB ring with the talent he has been surrounded with for his career. Is that the reason.. couldn't say.


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