Pack93z
  • Pack93z
  • Select Member Topic Starter
14 years ago
I had a post typed up on this subject before after the game.. especially the phantom swing and look after the overthrow in the corner of the endzone.. Rodgers is starting to walk a fine line between being a leader and being a whinny "Payton like" jackass.

I don't have much issue with the Johnson or Quarless rips because of mistakes.. but you can start to see him become animated and reactionary towards others even when it was his error.

The throw to Driver was his error.. one of few.. but body language speaks a ton.

This isn't the first time, but the most noticeable to date. Tread lightly my friend...


Rodgers: "I'm an emotional player" 
By Tom Silverstein of the Journal Sentinel

Dec. 8, 2010 4:37 p.m. |(1) Comments

Green Bay -- Peyton Manning does it often. Tom Brady does it once in awhile. Brett Favre almost never did it.

Whether to get on your teammates for mental mistakes is something every quarterback has to ponder because it can definitely backfire. Guys with the cache of Manning, Brady and Favre could take a belt to offenders at the 50-yard line and no one would blink an eye.

As we saw Sunday against San Francisco, Aaron Rodgers was very demonstrative in pointing out mental errors, dressing down fullback Quinn Johnson, chirping at tight end Andrew Quarless and in one instance, seemingly getting irate with wide receiver Donald Driver.

Many a quarterback has been emotional, but he also has to be careful how far he goes.
"I think as a quarterback and as a leader, you have to find ways to get through to your teammates," Rodgers said. "Some guys do better with a confrontation, some guys with a pat on the butt, some guys a one-on-one sit down. I'm an emotional player, and sometimes I share my emotions on the field, sometimes I share them in public.

"But I think some of the mistakes we've been making are so correctable, it's often most frustrating when I know those are mistakes that shouldn't happen. And when you've playing a tight game, you can't have alignment mistakes."

Rodgers was speaking more of the mistakes Quarless, a rookie, and Johnson, a second-year player made. Rodgers patted Johnson on the helmet after chewing him out.

As for the other instance, it turned out the swinging of his arm in total frustration was not aimed at Driver, an 11-year veteran who was unable to catch up to the ball thrown over his head in the corner on a first-and-goal play at the 6. But it sure seemed that way from afar.

It's not a good idea to show up a guy as honored as Driver, and even if you weren't showing him up you risk that possibility when you don't control your emotions.

Rodgers wouldn't say who he was gesturing at, but receiver Greg Jennings was on the same side as Driver, was a little late off the ball after going in motion and may have taken the route inside instead of outside. So it could have been Jennings. And if it wasn't Jennings then it was someone on the sideline.

On the very next play, Rodgers had to call a timeout because Quarless apparently wasn't lined up right.

"Sometimes I say things," Rodgers said. "I guess its frustrating when its a little thing and it shouldnt be an issue, I think. Youre probably talking about me getting on Quinn a little bit when he couldnt line up in the right spot. To me, that goes back to preparation.

"To me, physical mistakes are going to happen. They just are. Im going to throw a bad ball, guys are going to drop passes, might not be able to make a play at some point. But the mental stuff, I just have a really hard time with that. Because I just feel like the preparation should be the most important thing for these guys. "

Driver said he accepts Rodgers for the kind of person he is. He admitted Rodgers is cocky.

"But in a good way," Driver said. "I'm cocky. It goes hand in hand. I think I'm one of the best. He thinks he's one of the best quarterbacks. That's pretty good."


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Greg C.
14 years ago
I agree that the gesture on the miss to Driver did not look good. Rodgers has said that one important thing he learned after his first season was to not let his body language convey his frustration on the field, because that's not a good quality in a leader. It was disappointing to see him slip back into that mode on Sunday.

On the plus side, Aaron does seem to be friendly and approachable off the field with his teammates. He doesn't seem like an aloof kind of guy. That probably allows him to be more critical of his teammates on the field. Still, he does need to be careful with this stuff. It could go in a bad direction.
blank
porky88
14 years ago
Anyone see Tom Brady on the sideline against Pittsburgh?

If Rodgers displays half of that kinda of leadership, the Packers are in good hands for along time. I am okay with him chewing out players or even a slight stare down.

If Donald Driver is consistently making mistakes out there, then Driver should be held accountable. Same goes for any player.

Although, I agree there are times it is called for and it's not. The Driver play didn't really catch me or I didn't think anything of it. Regardless, the players should know Rodgers' personality by now.
Stevetarded
14 years ago
How do you guys automatically know who was responsible for each "error"? Do you get a list of play calls or something? If so could I get a link because I'd like to have them also.

I have no problem at all with Rodgers getting after people for screwing up. He seems like a guy who prepares his ass off and it's gotta be shitty to have a fellow "professional" not know what to do out there.
blank
Greg C.
14 years ago

How do you guys automatically know who was responsible for each "error"? Do you get a list of play calls or something? If so could I get a link because I'd like to have them also.

I have no problem at all with Rodgers getting after people for screwing up. He seems like a guy who prepares his ass off and it's gotta be shitty to have a fellow "professional" not know what to do out there.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



What are you talking about? Who said that they knew who was responsible for each "error"? Am I missing something?

As for Rodgers getting after people, I don't think it's really an issue at this time, but players do take notice of those things, and they may not take kindly to being called out in public or seeing their teammates being called out in public. It's not something that a QB should do too often. It's better to save it for the sidelines, when the cameras and the fans in the stands are not watching.
blank
RaiderPride
14 years ago
"Rodgers is starting to walk a fine line between being a leader and being a whinny "Payton like" jackass. "

I did not read past this line of this post. It is ridiculous. How dare you write those words. This is Aaron Freaking Rodgers.

If you want to shit on someone... Shit on the O Line, The WR's who just weeks ago did not understand the concept of a back shoulder throw.

Aaron has perhaps made two (TWO) mistakes all season. That is it.

I have no respect for this post, or the poster. It is just Blabber!



By the way.... I am just fucking kidding....

I just wanted the chance to act like Grave Digger responding to a negative post when Favre was starting for the Packers.

Good Post 93Z You are right, everyone needs a check up from the neck up once in a while. I hope Aaron's head does not get as big as it could.
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
Pack93z
  • Pack93z
  • Select Member Topic Starter
14 years ago
Greg. I think it is me claiming the error on the Driver play was Rodgers.. look at where the ball was thrown and look at the route ran.. how can it be anyone's issue but the guy that threw it too far outside?

Driver would have to be Shaq for the moment to corral that one.. IMO.

I am not ripping Rodgers.. but I think Greg put it best.. teammates notice things like that.. things that put that golden boy stain on the QB's in general.

My notation is more that I don't want Aaron to develop that "whinny bitch" trait Peyton displays at times.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Stevetarded
14 years ago

How do you guys automatically know who was responsible for each "error"? Do you get a list of play calls or something? If so could I get a link because I'd like to have them also.

I have no problem at all with Rodgers getting after people for screwing up. He seems like a guy who prepares his ass off and it's gotta be shitty to have a fellow "professional" not know what to do out there.

"Greg C." wrote:



What are you talking about? Who said that they knew who was responsible for each "error"? Am I missing something?

As for Rodgers getting after people, I don't think it's really an issue at this time, but players do take notice of those things, and they may not take kindly to being called out in public or seeing their teammates being called out in public. It's not something that a QB should do too often. It's better to save it for the sidelines, when the cameras and the fans in the stands are not watching.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



"The throw to Driver was his error"

I'm sure Rodgers knows how to handle the locker room and deal with his teammates. I'm going to go ahead and leave it to his discretion and not complain every time he looks like he's getting after someone.
blank
dhazer
14 years ago
I remember bringing this same exact thing earlier in the year but I got ripped on saying I'm a hater. But I did notice he was starting to whine to the refs and yell at players.

Ok I said my piece now start your ripping.


Oh ya one more thing, he really needs to stop with the belt thing, he hasn't won shit yet.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be šŸ™‚ (PS, Zero should charge for this)
UserPostedImage
Pack93z
  • Pack93z
  • Select Member Topic Starter
14 years ago



I'm sure Rodgers knows how to handle the locker room and deal with his teammates. I'm going to go ahead and leave it to his discretion and not complain every time he looks like he's getting after someone.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



Who is complaining every time?

It is a observation .. nothing more nothing less.

Guess those shouldn't be voiced eh. šŸ˜‰
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    dfosterf (3h) : It's my one day deal complaint dept. on shareholder meeting day
    dfosterf (4h) : Probably a homer access credential intimidation kinda thing
    dfosterf (4h) : Meathead "journalists" skip this, concentrating on operational revenue when convenient. They switch when net revenue is more favorable.
    dfosterf (4h) : Resulting in an actual drop of net revenue of 12.5%. She is from Minnesota. Just sayin'
    dfosterf (4h) : Any plans to hold Maureen Smith (CFO) accountable for a 95% drop in investment revenue?
    Mucky Tundra (4h) : In your face, HBO!
    Mucky Tundra (4h) : @ByRyanWood Mark Murphy: ā€œA great source of pride of mine is that we were never on Hard Knocks.ā€
    Mucky Tundra (5h) : *years
    Mucky Tundra (5h) : @mattschneidman Mark Murphy says he anticipates ā€œmany Packers gamesā€ being played in Germany, Ireland and/or the U.K. over the next 5-10 yea
    dfosterf (5h) : *cafeteria* I have hit my head also, so I sympathize
    dfosterf (5h) : Possibly hit his head leaning into the glass protecting the food in the cafateria
    dfosterf (5h) : Maybe a low flying drone
    dfosterf (5h) : Did Savion Williams run into a goalpost or something?
    Mucky Tundra (5h) : also, no bueno when a guy starts getting concussions right off the bat in his career
    Zero2Cool (6h) : Concussion is worse. Banks probably vet off day via back booboo claim
    Mucky Tundra (8h) : @AndyHermanNFL Jordy Nelson out at camp today. No word if he’s in play for one of the two open roster spots ; )
    dfosterf (8h) : Is that better or worse than Banks bad back?
    Zero2Cool (9h) : Savion concussion ... not good.
    packerfanoutwest (24-Jul) : Aaron Rodgers’s first pass of first team period was picked off
    Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : tbh I didn't hear of his passing
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Cosby Show. Malcom Jamal Warner I think is real name
    Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : I was thinking of Ozzy and Hulk
    Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : Who's Theo?
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : How is Theo alliteration?
    Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : Bad week for people whose names are alliterations
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Hulk Hogan gone too.
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Oh, it's toe injury
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Hope it's not serious. that would stink
    dfosterf (24-Jul) : Sounds like an ankle not a knee for Fields
    dfosterf (24-Jul) : Ya Flaccp on Browns
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Maybe Tyrod Taylor instead
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : He's on Browns, right?
    dfosterf (24-Jul) : They would probably go with Flacco is my guess if Fields out
    dfosterf (24-Jul) : Fleece 'em again!
    Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Malik Willis might be someone Jets come after
    packerfanoutwest (24-Jul) : Packers introduce 1923-inspired classic uniform, leather-look helmet
    Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Both LB Quay Walker and Rookie DB Micah Robinson have passed their physicals
    Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Happy to see site feels more snappy snappy
    Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : No sir. I did not.
    dfosterf (23-Jul) : You didn't get free childcare when you were at work?
    wpr (23-Jul) : These guys make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Pay for their own childcare.
    dfosterf (23-Jul) : 2nd issue. Number 1 issue was no gameday childcare. 1 of 3 teams not providing it
    Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Suppose if locker room is main issue, we sitting pretty
    wpr (23-Jul) : I thought so Mucky. In those useless player polls GB always rates high overall. Locker is a part of it.
    Mucky Tundra (23-Jul) : Wasn't the locker room just updated like 6 or 7 years ago?
    Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : I have forum updated on different site. We'll see how this one goes before going to that
    Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Elgton Jenkins has a back injury, is expect to end contract dispute
    wpr (23-Jul) : It's funny the PA complained about the locker room. It wasn't that long ago it was top shelf. Things change in a hurry.
    wpr (23-Jul) : The site is much more better.
    Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : NFLPA report said Packers lockerroom needed upgrade. Whining bout where you change?
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2025 Packers Schedule
    Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
    COMMANDERS
    Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
    Browns
    Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
    Cowboys
    Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
    BENGALS
    Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
    Cardinals
    Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
    Steelers
    Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
    PANTHERS
    Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
    EAGLES
    Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
    Giants
    Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
    Broncos
    Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
    Bears
    Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
    RAVENS
    Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
    Vikings
    Recent Topics
    4h / Around The NFL / Mucky Tundra

    5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

    14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    20h / Around The NFL / beast

    24-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    24-Jul / Around The NFL / beast

    24-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    23-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    23-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    22-Jul / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

    22-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    22-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    20-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    20-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    Headlines
    Copyright Ā© 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.comā„¢. All Rights Reserved.