SHIELDS RETURNING KICKOFFS.· Page 3

wpr
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14 years ago

This would add some threat to our punt returning as well if we can work him in throughout the year. Tramon's running in circles is pointless. I trust him with the ball, yet we gain no yardage. Field position is a large part of this game. Our field position against NY was great and we pitch a shut out. Our down field tackling on Special Teams has gotten better, now we just need some return threats.

Shields should be an option here.

"Timmons" wrote:

I was pretty upset with Williams running around last night. 4th Q GB is up by a ton and he is running around trying to gain 2 yards. I wish he would have fair caught the last 2-3 punts or let them go into the endzone. The last thing they need his for him to get injured trying to gain a meaningless few yards.

Greg C.
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14 years ago

#22

"Timmons" wrote:

Shields is not ready for punt returns. Maybe next year, if he demonstrates ball security on kickoff returns this year.

Tramon Williams is okay. I don't think he had anywhere to run last night, and good punt returns almost always require some lateral movement initially, to make the first two or three guys miss. If he's able to do it without losing yardage it's better than running straight into the defenders, as the potential payoff is much bigger.

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wpr
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14 years ago

#23

Tramon Williams is okay. I don't think he had anywhere to run last night, and good punt returns almost always require some lateral movement initially, to make the first two or three guys miss. If he's able to do it without losing yardage it's better than running straight into the defenders, as the potential payoff is much bigger.

"Greg C." wrote:

I understand I was just saying he shouldn't try to get those extra yards last night late in the game when it wasn't necessary but the potential for injury was.
But then again he is not a Cowboy. He is not going to just lay down during the game.

Mckennj3
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14 years ago

#24

What a steal for TT, after the Harris injury and with Lee hurt so often we were basically toast for depth after the first 2. Then in comes some undrafted rookie with one year experience, and solidifies the nickel while bringing a huge upside in the return game. Give this kid a season of experience and a full offseason and we may have our tandem set for the post Woody era (heaven forbid) it ever comes sooner then expected.

We are born naked, wet and hungry. Then things get worse.

Timmons
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14 years ago

#25

"wpr" wrote:

"Timmons" wrote:

I agree. Most great returns start with a 'catch and go' attitude. The first defenders miss due to speed. Then one shift/juke and it's the races. Tramon is not Dante Hall and his X factor (thank god for our punters tackle on that play in which the announcers were bragging that Hall has strung x-number of games with run backs together). I digress.

I know that Shields' ball control is known to be in question, yet somewhere in the season, we gotta give him a shot. Someone pointed out above, that with a 20 pt lead, that's as good a time as any.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

14 years ago

#26

I think what's in question is Shields catching the ball, not his control after he has caught it.

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