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Reports: Brad Childress acted alone on Moss; has "lost the locker room" 

It's not a new phenomenon to hear in league circles that Vikings players aren't exactly enamored with their head coach, Brad Childress. The events of Monday, when he told his team that he was going to release Randy Moss, may have been a tipping point in player displeasure, though.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen said on SportsCenter Monday evening that Childress has "lost the locker room."

"He really has," Mortensen said. "The players are not Childress guys right now. There's a sense there, 'does this head coach really know what he's doing?' That's the truth. You talk to people in that locker room, that's what you you're gonna get from them."

You have to wonder how strongly the front office remains "Childress guys" at this point. Childress did not tell management about his plan to cut Moss, according to NFL Network's Michael Lombardi. Childress has control over the 53-man roster, but this seems like a curious, if not self-destructive, time for Childress to go rogue and make a power play.

Moss hasn't officially been waived yet. But it's hard to imagine any scenario where Moss would return, no matter how much his new Vikings teammates and some members of the organization want Moss back. Jay Glazer of FOX reports that Moss wouldn't return at this point, even if asked.

Childress and Moss can't coexist at this point; the question is whether Childress can co-exist with the rest of the Vikings in that locker room.



This kind of makes me think what I just posted might be true. That Brad wants Moss out, but Brett wants Moss there and gave the Vikings an ultimatum.
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This whole situation confuses the hell out of me. Brad is losing the locker room, but I'm not sure that Burt is gaining many fans in there either other than with the old timers...and randy didn't do himself any favors with ANYONE after his tirade last night.

Clusterfuck city over there, but I love it!
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This kind of makes me think what I just posted might be true. That Brad wants Moss out, but Brett wants Moss there and gave the Vikings an ultimatum.

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But it's hard to believe that Brett would actually end his career (and his consecutive games streak) by failing to fulfill a contract, all because of Randy Moss. Kooky as he is, I think he cares too much about his legacy to end his career on such a sour note.
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This kind of makes me think what I just posted might be true. That Brad wants Moss out, but Brett wants Moss there and gave the Vikings an ultimatum.

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But it's hard to believe that Brett would actually end his career (and his consecutive games streak) by failing to fulfill a contract, all because of Randy Moss. Kooky as he is, I think he cares too much about his legacy to end his career on such a sour note.

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I don't think he would follow through with it. I think he'd use it as a power play.
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I've heard this report, and I've heard via some other local sources that the majority of the team was ok with this move. The only person that I know for a fact is mad about it is Percy Harvin. Which makes sense.. The kid loves Moss, and ever since Moss's arrival, Percy has been getting a lot more attention from his QB.

While the rube in me disagrees with the move of releasing Moss (just for the fact that he has hardly been used in his time here), I can see why the front office wanted to cut ties before it REALLY got ugly.

Paint me officially torn on this subject.
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14 years ago
I've heard episiotomies are good for that problem, Formo.
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14 years ago
I hope they don't get rid of Chilly. I would be sweet to see him pickup McNabb at the airport next summer. Yup Dam Sweet!
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I wouldn't be surprised if Favre did walk away. At this point, nobody would blame him IMO. Plus, his legacy is with the Packers and not the Vikings. He owes them nothing.
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Would Chilly give him a ride back to the airport?
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I've heard episiotomies are good for that problem, Formo.

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Go play with your vulva.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Favre did walk away. At this point, nobody would blame him IMO. Plus, his legacy is with the Packers and not the Vikings. He owes them nothing.

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Nobody would blame him for quitting on his team? I would blame him. There's one for you. And somehow I don't think I'm alone.

Favre has already shown that he doesn't care about his legacy with the Packers anywhere near as much as he cares about his individual legacy. That's what would take a major hit if he bailed in mid-season. Imagine the reaction from his teammates, some of whom flew down to Mississippi to talk him into returning. And Moss was not even part of the deal at the time. He came later. So Favre could not claim that the Vikings pulled a bait and switch on him.
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Nobody would blame him for quitting on his team? I would blame him. There's one for you. And somehow I don't think I'm alone.

Favre has already shown that he doesn't care about his legacy with the Packers anywhere near as much as he cares about his individual legacy. That's what would take a major hit if he bailed in mid-season. Imagine the reaction from his teammates, some of whom flew down to Mississippi to talk him into returning. And Moss was not even part of the deal at the time. He came later. So Favre could not claim that the Vikings pulled a bait and switch on him.

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I think the three fellas coming to get him is a heavy burden on his shoulders.
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I think the three fellas coming to get him is a heavy burden on his shoulders.

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It sure does. The team also increased his salary by a few million dollars after that last retirement scare (although Brett says it was not about the money). Brett owes the Vikings his best effort for the 2010 season. I would be shocked if he did not follow through with that.
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After our struggles in 08... this is just entertaining theatre.

Crazy Train...  


MINNEAPOLIS - I should have seen it coming. You should have, too. A pouty receiver wearing purple on a tryout basis produces 8 yards in a big game and makes no effort to catch a potential touchdown pass, then makes a spectacle of himself by conducting a postgame monologue in which he gushes about the team he just lost to and rips his own coach - of course he's going to get cut the next day.

But when you ride the Vikings' crazy train for 20 years, even Randy Moss' strange soliloquy Sunday night starts to look like a weekday afternoon at the public library.

Monday, Vikings coach Brad Childress told his players that he intended to released Moss. Moss gave him no choice. It's one thing to deal with the egomania of Brett Favre, who at least plays hard and won 13 games for the Vikings last year. It's another to tolerate open mutiny from a player who doesn't make an effort and hasn't made an impact.

Moss is the same petulant slacker the Vikings dismissed in 2005, only he's no longer able to make up for his laziness with otherworldly athletic ability.

Patriots coach Bill Belichick realized that at this point in his career Moss is no longer worth the headaches he causes, and the Vikings, after taking an understandable chance on a player who should have been able to help their offense, quickly came to agree with Belichick.

For most franchises, Moss' antics on Sunday were a once-in-a-franchise-history embarrassment. In the land of the Vikings, this is just how we pass the time between Love Boats, ticket scalpings and Favre holdouts.

Childress decided he could no longer live with Moss. No sane person could blame him.

Upon hearing the news Monday, I remembered a conversation with Childress in 2006. Back then, he was no fun for anyone to be around - whether you were a player, assistant coach or reporter.

Once I asked him why he was so dour. He said something like, ``I'm only going to get one shot to be an NFL head coach, and I'm going to do it my way.''

By banishing Moss, Childress is trying to reassert (or at least salvage) his authority in a locker room where Favre's cavalier attitude has made Childress the subject of rumors about his job security.

Moss' release is proof that if Childress is going to go, he's going to go out on his own terms.

Childress has performed poorly this year, whether when making challenges, deciding how to play out the end of the first half or choosing personnel for key plays. He has often left his best players - including Adrian Peterson - on the sideline when they are most needed.

But before you write him off as a dunce, or this season as a lost cause, remember the past two seasons.

In 2008, a team quarterbacked by Gus Frerotte and Tarvaris Jackson won 10 games and came within one ugly Jackson interception of beating the Eagles in the playoffs.

In 2009, Childress' offense looked dynamic with a real quarterback at the helm, and the Vikings came within one ugly Favre interception of going to a Super Bowl they might have won.

Childress is an excellent judge of talent and has helped build a deep roster and a strong coaching staff. He needs to perform better on gameday to keep his job, and by now he's probably figured that out.

With Moss gone, the Vikings will approach the final nine games of the season with a more focused locker room and still plenty of talent to make the playoffs. One winning streak could make all the difference, and Childress has presided over a few.

In 2007, a less-talented Childress team won five consecutive games. In 2008, a less-talented team won seven of its final nine games to make the playoffs. In 2009, the Vikings went on winning streaks of six and four games, and responded to losses at Carolina and Chicago by blowing out the Giants and Cowboys and outplaying the Saints in the NFC Championship Game.

Before the season, I predicted that the Vikings would finish 9-7. I was labeled a pessimist.

I'm sticking with a 9-7 finish, and now I'll be seen as a raving optimist.

Look around the mediocre NFC. Look at the Vikings' schedule. Look at the control with which Favre played Sunday. Look at the Vikings' roster.

If Childress can apply more sideline common sense and Favre can avoid throwing the killing interception, in two months Moss' psychotic visit will become nothing more than another bizarre footnote in the annals of strange Vikings behavior.


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