RashaanSalaami
14 years ago
2 things:

1. Dom's scheme was perfectly fine. He was forced to play subpackages all game. We didn't line up in a base package for even ONE snap thanks to the Cullen Jenkins injury. That's a big reason why AP and the Vikings ran wild on us last night. Not much you can do when you're without 2 starting DEs for the majority of the game (Pickett played only 7 snaps).

2. On that last drive, Bishop wasn't playing short zone over Moss. He was on Moss. They doubled him with Bishop short and Tramon over the top and I believe a Cover 2 over top that. Either that or maybe they were just playing a Cover 3. Either way, they knew Moss was just going deep and Bishop was over there to try and slow him down at the LOS.
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doddpower
14 years ago

2 things:

1. Dom's scheme was perfectly fine. He was forced to play subpackages all game. We didn't line up in a base package for even ONE snap thanks to the Cullen Jenkins injury. That's a big reason why AP and the Vikings ran wild on us last night. Not much you can do when you're without 2 starting DEs for the majority of the game (Pickett played only 7 snaps).

2. On that last drive, Bishop wasn't playing short zone over Moss. He was on Moss. They doubled him with Bishop short and Tramon over the top and I believe a Cover 2 over top that. Either that or maybe they were just playing a Cover 3. Either way, they knew Moss was just going deep and Bishop was over there to try and slow him down at the LOS.

"chrisbozzonerocks" wrote:



I remember seeing our base 3-4 a few times with Wynn-Raji-Wilson, much to my dismay since I thought Pickett and Raji were playing. Sure, we ran nickle more, but we definitely ran some base.

EDIT: I see in your analysis page you say we didn't run any. You have obviously watched the game more than I did, as I just watched it one time. But I really thought I saw 3 down linemen in the game a few times in our base. Did anyone else notice that or am I totally wrong?
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I'm starting to realize I may not have known how many players were out on our defense. Like I said, I only got to see a small part of the second half, and judging from some of the threads here, the commentators weren't very forthcoming on the injury front. I really should watch the whole game. Overall, I was pleased with the individual performances I saw on the field.

I'm still astonished at the number of plays I saw in which we had two or NO down linemen. How often do NFL teams play with no down linemen at all?
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Pack93z
14 years ago
Yes they played some 3 downs.. and they played some 4 man fronts with Lang inserted as well.. I think Zombo had his hand in the dirt as well.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Yes, I noticed a couple of plays in which we had our linebackers either really shallow or with their hands on the ground. Strange looking formations indeed.
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doddpower
14 years ago

Yes they played some 3 downs.. and they played some 4 man fronts with Lang inserted as well.. I think Zombo had his hand in the dirt as well.

"pack93z" wrote:



Ok cool. I knew we played the heavy line on goal line formations, but I was also pretty sure I saw our base 3-4 a couple of times.

Oh well, doesn't really matter either way.
RashaanSalaami
14 years ago

2 things:

1. Dom's scheme was perfectly fine. He was forced to play subpackages all game. We didn't line up in a base package for even ONE snap thanks to the Cullen Jenkins injury. That's a big reason why AP and the Vikings ran wild on us last night. Not much you can do when you're without 2 starting DEs for the majority of the game (Pickett played only 7 snaps).

2. On that last drive, Bishop wasn't playing short zone over Moss. He was on Moss. They doubled him with Bishop short and Tramon over the top and I believe a Cover 2 over top that. Either that or maybe they were just playing a Cover 3. Either way, they knew Moss was just going deep and Bishop was over there to try and slow him down at the LOS.

"doddpower" wrote:



I remember seeing our base 3-4 a few times with Wynn-Raji-Wilson, much to my dismay since I thought Pickett and Raji were playing. Sure, we ran nickle more, but we definitely ran some base.

EDIT: I see in your analysis page you say we didn't run any. You have obviously watched the game more than I did, as I just watched it one time. But I really thought I saw 3 down linemen in the game a few times in our base. Did anyone else notice that or am I totally wrong?

"chrisbozzonerocks" wrote:



We may have played some on short yardage situation, but I don't think we played any Base 3-4. Might have been some 4-4, but I don't believe we played base.

Here's the quote from McCarthy's presser from Monday:

(When [Cullen Jenkins] got hurt, did that change a lot as far as the game plan?)
We really didnt have any choice. You already handed in the inactives, so. Yeah, it took us out of base. We went into an exclusive sub-defense game. We knew that Ryan was going to be limited. I dont think that would have been practical for Ryan Pickett to play 40 snaps in that game coming off his injury, and he played seven. He tried to gut it out but it just wasnt right. You could see it on the first double-team with Ryan Pickett. He doesnt get moved out on double-teams and you could just see right away that the ankle wasnt right.

"MM" wrote:



I'm sure we played with some 3 or 4 down linemen at some point, but it wasn't our base 3-4 look that we're accustomed to seeing on run downs. They probably figured we'd be better off keeping Woodson inside and being prepared for the pass every down rather than bring an extra DL in the game who probably couldn't put much pressure on the QB if they did decide to pass. Basically the extra DL's value as a run stopper wasn't as valuable as the extra DB as a pass defender on any down.

But as you said in your last post, it doesn't really matter. Point is that we were barely able to play much of it due to the injuries.
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