mi_keys
14 years ago
Bishop on Moss. That's a matchup the Vikes should be drooling over and instead it ends up with Bishop in a Packers caravan into the end zone. Beautiful.
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DGB454
14 years ago
Didn't Hawk get an int also?
Rockmolder
14 years ago

He was just playing a short zone. But he did a good job. This was a great game for Bishop.

"nerdmann" wrote:




Hawk's gone next year. We'll get like a 3rd or 4th compensatory pick for him. Bishop and Barnett will be starting.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



Hawk didn't play bad. Or great. A solid performance. Which is what he brings every week.

Hawk is not gone after this season.

"nerdmann" wrote:





No way Ted gives him the money he thinks he's worth. No way Hawk stays here if he's not the starter. And he shouldn't be.

"Greg C." wrote:



Ted doesn't have to give him anything since he'll still be under contract. Problem is, we're paying him just $4,5 million this year. That's at least reasonable. It'll blow up to $10 million next year. A price we shouldn't pay for him with Barnett, Bishop and Chillar on the roster. I think he'll be gone, as well.

Bishop played great. There was some rumor going around about Bishop being part of a pass coverage package. Got scolded when I said that that'd be a great idea. Maybe Bishop doesn't have the speed, but he can play some press surprisingly well against someone who's faster and more agile than him. He shadows receivers amazingly for a man of his stature in those shallow zones.

If he keeps going like this, he'll be starting next to Barnett next year.
Pack93z
14 years ago
I feel a bit vindicated for my Bishop fawning for the past couple seasons. ;)

Anyway.. Bishop played a whale of a game, no doubt.

But I have to shallow my pride just a bit, I haven't went to a Packers game since the 08 season.. but Hawk looked like a completely different player last night.. he made a play on the Vikings side of the LOS.. and was much more active overall than I remember him in previous Lambeau games.. god you see so much more at the game than on TV..

Anyway.. props to the Middle Linebackers.. been a while since I seen the interior backers for the Packers, in either alignment play at that level.. hats off to both of them.

If I had to wager.. and if Hawk and Bishop continue to play with that type of continuity between them.. Barnett either moves, is bumped down the depth chart or is pulling on a different jersey.

Bishop and Hawk seem to complement each other very well, you can keep the two picks, those were more of gifts than great plays by them.. the play I am talking about is snap in and out.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
yooperfan
14 years ago
If Hawks contract for next year could be renegotiated down to a realistic number, I would like to see a continuation of Hawk and Bishop on the inside.
I think moving Barnett to the outside would be beneficial to both the Packers and him. Barnett may be the the compliment to Clay that the Packers need.
Since69
14 years ago

If Hawks contract for next year could be renegotiated down to a realistic number, I would like to see a continuation of Hawk and Bishop on the inside.
I think moving Barnett to the outside would be beneficial to both the Packers and him. Barnett may be the the compliment to Clay that the Packers need.

"yooperfan" wrote:



It's been brought up (and shouted down) before, but I agree. Find a way to get all your best players on the field at once.

Matthews -- Bishop -- Hawk -- Barnett?

Wow.
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doddpower
14 years ago

If Hawks contract for next year could be renegotiated down to a realistic number, I would like to see a continuation of Hawk and Bishop on the inside.
I think moving Barnett to the outside would be beneficial to both the Packers and him. Barnett may be the the compliment to Clay that the Packers need.

"Since69" wrote:



It's been brought up (and shouted down) before, but I agree. Find a way to get all your best players on the field at once.

Matthews -- Bishop -- Hawk -- Barnett?

Wow.

"yooperfan" wrote:



I just don't see Barnett getting ANY pressure on the QB from the outside position.
Pack93z
14 years ago
Barnett is not a blitzing backer.. so he isn't going to get a ton of opposite side pressure from Matthews.

But Barnett would provide excellent range, however I might be concerned with him setting the edge outside.

People bang on Brad Jones a ton, but the kid is an very effective backer against the run.. he just hasn't developed as a pass rusher yet.. he may or may not.. but Jones is stout in setting the edge more so than any other backer on the roster not named Matthews.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
warhawk
14 years ago
Hawk will hit FA. Ted will make him an offer and Hawk will go shopping. Nobody is paying Hawk his price so the question is what is another team willing to pay.

My guess is we will be pretty loaded with healthy LB's going in and some team will pay him more than we will. I won't knock Ted with how things stand being in a position where he doesn't have to overpay.
"The train is leaving the station."
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Hawk will hit FA. Ted will make him an offer and Hawk will go shopping. Nobody is paying Hawk his price so the question is what is another team willing to pay.

My guess is we will be pretty loaded with healthy LB's going in and some team will pay him more than we will. I won't knock Ted with how things stand being in a position where he doesn't have to overpay.

"warhawk" wrote:




7/28/2006: Signed a six-year, $37.5 million contract. The deal contains $16 million guaranteed, including an $11.85 million option bonus in the second year.

2010: $4,123,750 (+ $500,000 workout bonus),
2011: $10 million
2012: Free Agent



I don't see us paying Hawk $10 million next year.
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