Silentio
14 years ago
ESPN NFC NORTH 

CHICAGO -- The Green Bay Packers' fall from grace can be boiled down to a pair of plays midway through the third quarter Monday night at Soldier Field.

On a third down from the Chicago Bears' 15-yard line, quarterback Aaron Rodgers rifled a pass past two defenders and into the arms of tight end Jermichael Finley in the end zone. Touchdown? Nope. A whistle. Right tackle Mark Tauscher was holding.

Two players later, on fourth down, Bears defensive lineman Julius Peppers burst through a hole in the Packers' protection to block Mason Crosby's 37-yard field goal attempt.

"That was a big change there," Rodgers said after the Bears' 20-17 victory. "When you lose by three points, you have to look at plays like that."

You'll hear plenty this week about the Bears' 3-0 start, the best record in the NFC. Our friends over at ESPNChicago.com have it covered wall-to-wall. I'll be the first to admit that I never saw the Bears as the NFC North's final unbeaten team, let alone the entire conference. No matter how it happened, the Bears deserve all praise that comes their way this week.

But before we crown the Bears, let's take a moment to bury the Packers. (At least for the moment.) Quite frankly, this was an epic collapse for a team that has its sights set on the Super Bowl. The Packers set a team record with 18 penalties, wiping out Finley's touchdown as well as two fourth-quarter turnovers. Their special teams gave up two long kick returns, including Devin Hester's 62-yarder for a touchdown.

Receiver James Jones' fumble with 2 minutes, 18 seconds remaining both scuttled the Packers' potential game-winning drive and set up the Bears' winning field goal.

And according to FOX-6 in Milwaukee, safety Nick Collins got in a heated debate with a Bears fan on the way off the field, provoked by what he told the station was the use of the "N"-word.

"We lost our composure," receiver Greg Jennings said, speaking generally about the game. "Anytime you have that many penalties and mistakes, you've lost your composure."

That wasn't supposed to be the storyline for this Packers team, which is no longer the NFL's youngest and in fact has established veterans at most positions. The Packers were the league's most-penalized team last season, but all indications were that they had taken the next step and were ready to compete on the league's biggest stage.

Instead, they were an undisciplined mess. Linebacker Nick Barnett used a crude reference to describe their performance, comparing it to a bodily function that runs down a nerve-wracked person's legs.

"That's what it boiled down to," Barnett said.

So how could that happen in a game that seemed destined to deify the Packers as the NFC's top team? If I didn't know any better, I'd think the pressure got to them. Some teams and players embrace the so-called "front-runner" status. Monday night, at least, it appeared the Packers were consumed by it. They simply couldn't handle themselves on this stage, at least not yet.

Mistakes happen in every NFL game, but their frequency Monday night suggested a team playing outside of its comfort zone. Overall, 12 different Packers players committed at least one penalty. It was across the board, ranging from rookies to the most seasoned veterans on the team.

Rodgers typically has a good sense of the Packers' locker room, and so I asked him after the game if he sensed any correlation. I thought he chose his words carefully.

"I hope not," Rodgers said. "We're still a young team. But when you get into the grind of the week-to-week schedule, I'm hopeful that, like myself, the focus is solely on the opponent at hand, not on the expectations or experts' picks or how they say we're going to do that week. I can only speak for myself. That's training camp talk. For the most part, we're focused on our opponent and preparation."

It's true that rookies committed both penalties that overturned both turnovers. Linebacker Frank Zombo's brutal hit to Bears quarterback Jay Cutler's chin nullified Barnett's interception, while a pass interference call against safety Morgan Burnett put the Bears in position for Robbie Gould's game-winning 19-yard field goal.

But even Rodgers, who played a whale of a game while fighting through second-half cramps, contributed to the mess. His intentional-grounding penalty pushed the Packers back 10 yards on the play prior to Jones' fumble.

"You can't win a game like that," Barnett said. "We just can't have that. We have to clean up all sides of the ball and play better football."

"Seeing all those penalties," cornerback Charles Woodson said, "that's just a tough pill to swallow. It's a tough situation. We'll have to get that fixed."

Even so, the Packers won't get a chance to take back Monday night's game. One-sixth of their NFC North schedule has already fallen victim.

Barnett acknowledged that the Bears "were the better team today" but not "a better team than us period." He added: "Honestly, I feel we have a better team. I feel we have better players. But they played better today. That's my personal opinion, and I feel we can play a lot better than we played today."

The way the Packers played Monday night "doesn't cut it," coach Mike McCarthy said.

For one night, at least, the Packers didn't match their hype. Instead, they seemed swallowed by it.


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musccy
14 years ago
I hardly read the article because the premise is asinine.

No doubt the packers played like shit last night, but only 1 preseason favorite (steelers) is undefeated right now, so does that mean the Jets, 'fins, Pats, Saints, Colts, Cowboys, Texans, Ravens, vikings, chargers...'can't handle they hype,' or maybe does it have something to do with it being a long season during which only 2 teams have EVER gone undefeated???
dfosterf
14 years ago
I hate that Viking homer asshole, and you KNOW he was just waiting for the opportunity to write this shit.

That being said, I was going to post this article this morning.

I want EVERYONE to have to read it, especially ANYONE involved with the Packer organization.

They should have to fucking EAT this article. If I had the chance, I'd curl the article up and shove it up some player's and coaches' :cussing: asses this morning.
musccy
14 years ago
agreed dfosterf...and I wasn't trying to bash silentio for posting this...I saw it this morning as well, and like you say, I'm just annoyed with the viking ball washer for getting his rocks off this morning and using a bit of an anomoly to define a team/season.
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I will never understand why the Packers seem to so consistently trip over their own feet on nationally televised games. Someone needs to give them all chill pills before they take the field on hyped games.
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Silentio
14 years ago
I know everyone thinks Seifert is a Vikings homer (I disagree but that doesn't really matter in terms of the article, imo) but I think he has a point. The big reason I think he has a point is that he bases much of what he says on quotes from the players themselves and from Mike McCarthy. We started out pretty confident, I think, and we looked like the better team. However, as the game went on we made more and more mistakes and it cost us the game. I don't see how that isn't, at least in part, because they couldn't handle the pressure. Whether it's specifically because of all of the Super Bowl predictions and the like is debatable. But from where I stand it sure looks like the team cracked during the game after a strong start.
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dfosterf
14 years ago

I will never understand why the Packers seem to so consistently trip over their own feet on nationally televised games. Someone needs to give them all chill pills before they take the field on hyped games.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



...And just think, Rourke...

You sit there in Wisconsin surrounded by our fellow cheeseheads...

Guy like Dhaze and myself get to absorb CONSTANT ridicule from our friends and neighbors, etc.

The team seems to LOVE to reflect the caricature of it's fans as perceived nationally as a bunch of fucking Wisconsin rubes---ALWAYS on the biggest of stages.

Just fucking great.
dhazer
14 years ago

I will never understand why the Packers seem to so consistently trip over their own feet on nationally televised games. Someone needs to give them all chill pills before they take the field on hyped games.

"dfosterf" wrote:



...And just think, Rourke...

You sit there in Wisconsin surrounded by our fellow cheeseheads...

Guy like Dhaze and myself get to absorb CONSTANT ridicule from our friends and neighbors, etc.

The team seems to LOVE to reflect the caricature of it's fans as perceived nationally as a bunch of fucking Wisconsin rubes---ALWAYS on the biggest of stages.

Just fucking great.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I didn't even want to come into work today because of the shit I knew I would get. Hell I am even getting it from the sales reps :(

And to top it all off they are reminding me how the Steelers are 3-0 and don't even have their starting qb
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Greg C.
14 years ago
I think the article is 100% right. As Silentio noted, it is based largely on quotes from Packer players. And I don't think Siefert is a Vikings homer. He's been very critical of Team Favre when it has been warranted.

If you don't think the Packers choked, then what the hell happened? I personally think this was one of the best examples of a choke job that you're ever going to see.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Read or listen to what the Packers are saying after the game. They seem to nonchalant in my opinion. You lost a division game, against a rival, you had a chance to take a sole possession of first in division and you walked out the welcome mat for the rival.


Packers need to consider themselves underdogs, always, forever. It's the only way they come out and play dominating ball.
Mike McCarthy said it best in '07 ... he's not worried about how the team handles defeat, he's more worried about how the team handles success. This team lacks the maturity to handle success and carry it into the next game.
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