wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member Topic Starter
14 years ago


Coaches face tough choices on whittling down roster 
By Lori Nickel of the Journal Sentinel


Green Bay If the rest of the league hasn't already caught on to the preseason hype surrounding Green Bay as a widespread favorite to win the Super Bowl, it sure took notice when the Packers put a 59-24 whuppin' on the Indianapolis Colts on Thursday night.

With a Green Bay offense primed to exceed its record-setting numbers from a year ago, Packer Nation is starting to proclaim that every day is TGIF, as in "Thank Goodness It's Finley."

But beyond budding superstar Jermichael Finley, the Packers are so rich with talent at tight end that they will have to at least consider keeping all five on the roster. Or maybe four.

What a thought. A basketball team of tight ends could mean more two tight end formations, numerous 6-foot-4 targets for Aaron Rodgers and maybe even better pass protection to keep the quarterback standing.

Plus, they're all big guys willing to pack a punch on special teams.

"I've never seen a team with five with this talent," said eight-year veteran Donald Lee. "I've been around where there was three. When I got here we had Bubba Franks, David Martin and myself. We all could do a lot of different things, we were good at it and they kept us all.

"Now, it's going to be a tough decision. In the end, I wouldn't be surprised if they kept all five."

If the Packers are leaning that way, Joe Philbin isn't saying. When the offensive coordinator was asked if he wants Finley along with Lee, Spencer Havner, Tom Crabtree and Andrew Quarless on the roster, he downplayed the thought.

"I don't know about that . . . , " he said.

Usually by now, coaches can see who has an edge over the second-rate talent. Or an injury settles the matter.

But Philbin quickly acknowledged that the coaches are going to have to make some challenging decisions about their four backup tight ends soon. There are just three practices left before the roster cut-down to 75 players Tuesday, and then comes the final preseason game at Kansas City, a critical final look at young players who are not a lock to make the team. The final roster cut-down to 53 players is Sept. 4.

"Pretty soon we'll have to start making some decisions," said Philbin. "(The final week) is important for a lot of guys. There's always those bubble-type guys that are going to see a lot of action, and we're trying to gather more information.

"We like them. They've got some ability, some talent, bring some different things to the table. They've been productive. It's a tough decision."

Besides the overall talent of the group, each tight end has his own calling card.

Quarless, a rookie fifth-round draft pick, scored his first touchdown against the Colts when he ran a double route, took the flat and turned upfield.

"I've got to give it to Matt Flynn - he put it right there so I could catch it," said Quarless. "It was a great ball. There's nothing better than a touchdown; you've got to like it."

Quarless, who worked specifically on his blocking this offseason, already is an exceptionally smooth route runner who looks like a receiver even though he weighs 252 pounds.

Second-year tight end Havner accepted his conversion from linebacker last year and rewarded the coaches with four touchdowns. His versatility makes him a good special teams player, with 20 tackles on those units a year ago. He had some off-the-field issues last spring but has played well in camp and has three catches for 21 yards this preseason.

First-year tight end Crabtree had a nice grab against the Colts - his first in a preseason game this summer. He also plays on all the special teams, but he will make his money by solid blocking, with good fundamentals.

And then there's Lee. He has just one catch this preseason, but the Packers know what they have in him: 134 total receptions in three of his last four years. While he had too many drops last year (practice included) Philbin believed that issue was corrected early this offseason.

Lee, who has 1,802 receiving yards and 16 touchdowns in his NFL career, also is regarded as a solid blocker, but most notably he has been the consummate professional and team player. He's been willing to play special teams and graciously take a backseat to the emerging Finley, who in his second year in 2009 had the second-most catches (55) in a season by a Packers tight end despite missing three games with a knee injury.

"I consider myself the big brother to all these guys, cleaning up after them," said Lee. "Whatever they don't do, I will do. Whatever they ask me to do, I'll do whatever it takes to help the team win."

The Packers may consider Lee of great value to the team, but he is also the one player they may entertain in a trade deal (though no one from the club has stated as such). Lee is scheduled to make $2 million in 2010 and $2.2 million in 2011, a steep price for backup for the Packers but perhaps tempting for a team in need of a reliable tight end.

Lee hasn't gotten a ton of repetitions this summer, but that's probably because the Packers know what he can do and need to see what the young players can do.

"I don't worry about that. I've been around long enough now they have confidence in my ability," said Lee.

The Packers have other options. Quarless said he wouldn't mind the practice squad "to contribute to the team any way I can," but what are the odds that he wouldn't be scooped up by another team? Anyone from this offense is marketable right now.

"It's good for us, we really push each other," said Crabtree. "As far as numbers and all that, I'm not worried about that. I don't know what they're thinking. All I know is we're being evaluated on everything we do. Every day. I'm not taking anything for granted or relaxing at all."

The tight ends believe that no matter what the Packers decide, there will be an NFL job for all of them.

"They say what you put on tape fills your rsum," said Quarless. "And we're all putting great stuff on tape."


UserPostedImage
RainX
14 years ago
Lee is the kind of veteran you like to have around. He's being about as consumate a professional despite the tough decisions looming ahead that could vastly affect his future.

I think the ideal thing would be to keep Finley, Quarless, Havner, and Crabtree and see if you can't get a late round pick from someone for Lee who is looking for some TE depth. Otherwise you keep him and then hope you can sneak Crabtree through waivers and stash him on the practice squad.

I'm also perfectly fine just going with 2 halfbacks (Grant and Jackson) and keeping out 3 FBs again. Kuhn has shown he's more than capable of holding down the 3rd RB spot and Porter should have no troubles passing through waivers and being put on the Practice Squad.
blank
Fan Shout
Martha Careful (45m) : Why is it that the Rams rookies can contribute right away but our first and second year guys are too young to contribute in a meaningful way
Martha Careful (57m) : Yes, Saquon Barkley had a very nice game. But he has a much better offensive line in front of him. I'll take Josh Jacob's. I love the guy
buckeyepackfan (5h) : Rumor has Mike going to The Bears.
Zero2Cool (10h) : Mike McCarthy is out as Cowboys coach
Mucky Tundra (23h) : DOINKED IN FOR THE WIN!!!!!
Mucky Tundra (23h) : Cardiac Commanders
TheKanataThrilla (13-Jan) : Don't like that call Washtington on 4th down
TheKanataThrilla (12-Jan) : The Bills really need to improve their D. The have the ability to score at will, but if they stumble this D will not save them.
Zero2Cool (12-Jan) : LET'S GO
Mucky Tundra (12-Jan) : Blocked PAT returned for 2; not something you see often
Mucky Tundra (12-Jan) : After a strong start, Herbert playing like ass
Mucky Tundra (11-Jan) : Oh god, that means the Clifford stans will come back out of the woodwork
Zero2Cool (11-Jan) : Fills the openin they had
buckeyepackfan (11-Jan) : Sean Clifford signed to 53 man roster.
Martha Careful (11-Jan) : Two terrific NCAA Football Semi-Final Games...We can only hope the Championship game is as good
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : Eagles WR DeVonta Smith will be a DNP in today’s practice. He’s dealing with back tightness. But the expectation is that he’ll play Sunday.
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : Jalen Hurts has cleared the concussion protocol. He’s playing Sunday.
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : 𝕏avier McKinney First Team All-Pro
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : NFL moves Vikings-Rams playoff tilt to Arizona due to fires
Zero2Cool (10-Jan) : Rams lose home field advantage for Monday game.
Mucky Tundra (9-Jan) : Notre Lame=Notre Dame, Luckeyes=Ohio State, Pedo St=Penn St
Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : ... It clearly was not what we were supposed to be in, certainly."
Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : Hafley says 3rd and 11 call there was a miscommunication.
Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : The only team I know is Texas from that. Who are the other three?
Mucky Tundra (9-Jan) : Notre Lame vs Pedo St tonight and the Luckeyes vs Texas tomorrow
Mucky Tundra (9-Jan) : Stud
Zero2Cool (9-Jan) : E. Cooper. Rookie of Month. Defense.
Mucky Tundra (8-Jan) : @AaronNagler · 2m Both Jordan Love and Malik Willis were Limited participants at Packers practice today.
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Johnson didn't make it until 2020. Ring 2023. 🤷 Personally, he should have been in years prior to Hall.
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : HUMP DAY
beast (8-Jan) : Guys that have a good shot at making the NFL Hall of Fame usually get into their teams pretty fast
beast (8-Jan) : Yeah, but is Kampman and the others in the NFL Hall of Fame?
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Johnson was Hall of Fame, 2020. Should haev been in Ring a year later, not three years.
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : I could be wrong there though
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Guys like Kampman, Tim Harris, Al Harris, etc all over 15 years. Hall of Fame is 5 year wait
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : I guess I see players in Packers Hall come way later
beast (8-Jan) : Yeah, usually teams hall of fames are a much lower bar than the NFL
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : is it uncommon for Hall before Ring?
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : S Xavier McKinney named first-team All-Pro by NFLPA
beast (8-Jan) : I missed it, sorry, but he got into the NFL Hall of Fame years before that
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Jones took his sweet ole time!
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Yeah, he's in the ring of honor, just saw video and his name is up there
Zero2Cool (8-Jan) : Didn't they have a thing in 2023 for Jimmy's ring of honor? I swear I saw it
beast (8-Jan) : Though if they're legitimately trying to re-sign MM, then it makes sense.
beast (8-Jan) : Jerry Jones still hasn't put Jimmy Johnson in the Ring of Honor, but he's in the NFL's Hall of Fame, Jones is petty
Mucky Tundra (8-Jan) : Unless the Cowboys are planning an extension, seems kinda petty
beast (8-Jan) : Cowboys denied Bears request
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : From what I'm reading, MM is under contract through the 14th of January; after that he's free game
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : McCarthy let go or not extended??
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Chicago Bears have asked the Dallas Cowboys permission to interview Mike McCarthy for head coaching vacancy
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
58m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

13-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

12-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

11-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

10-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

9-Jan / Around The NFL / beast

9-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

9-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.