Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
And my response would be so what? The top 5 running backs last season were

* Chris Johnson (TEN, 8-8)

* Steven Jackson (STL, 5-11)

* Thomas Jones (NYJ, 9-11)

* Maurice Jones Drew (JAC, 7-9)

* Adrian Peterson (MIN, 12-4)

The average record for these teams was 8.2-7.8.

The Packers were 3-1 against the Vikings with Peterson before Favre came to town (including a 34-0 shutout in which Peterson only rushed for 45 yards). The Packers have proven they can beat the Vikings even when Peterson rushes for over 100 yards. I'd rather they shut down Favre and forced Peterson to beat them.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
We already have half a dozen threads on this topic.
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musccy
14 years ago
great points/post nonstop.

What concerns me is Capers. Too lazy to look this up but his record v. favre is infamous, and he certainly showed a propencity to sit back rather than force favre last year. I'm certainly hoping he was watching the saints game.
Pack93z
14 years ago
One can't word it any better why and how desperate the Vikings were than a Viking beat reporter that looks at the reality of the situation..

Letting a Hall of Famer walk for another potential HOFer.. A season of being laughed at and teased by others.

Having your replacement develop into a legitimate QB for then next ten years... validation of the year of pain.

Watching the rival end up with the outcast QB and him publicly embarrass the franchise two straight years.. priceless. ;)

Now.. lets right the ship on the field and kick their collective asses. :thumbleft:



Excuse Vikings for their QB desperation 

By Mark Craig / Star Tribune (Minneapolis) lacrossetribune.com | Posted: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:28 am

MINNEAPOLIS - No player in the history of sports has ever extended his team further over a barrel than Brett Favre dangled the Vikings and their three Ambassadors to Hattiesburg on Tuesday morning.

It breaks the record set by Favre a year ago Wednesday when he finally showed up to save the Vikings. You know, the first time around.

If the Vikings came off looking desperate, clumsy and discombobulated, it doesn't really matter. The only thing that mattered was convincing Favre to keep playing ahead of Tarvaris Jackson. The groveling, the reported $7 million pay bump and Tuesday's Keystone Kops routine will be long forgotten by the time Faith Hill starts singing on Sept. 9.

Before Air Favre One finally arrived in Minnesota on Tuesday, the Vikings were a rudderless wild-card dark horse adrift in a sea of decent NFC teams. Once Air Favre One touched down, the Vikings became a perfectly seasoned team with a leader and no excuses not to make the Super Bowl for the first time since Favre was 7 years old.

It must be uncomfortable being made to look desperate, clumsy and discombobulated from March through mid-August. It must be painful to pass on a Donovan McNabb for a second-rounder and set your draft board according to the whims of a 40-year-old quarterback.

The only known antidote is Aaron Rodgers. And since there's no Aaron Rodgers west of Wausau, the Vikings swallowed their pride, publicly humiliated their backup quarterbacks and created one final carnival ride for the media on Tuesday.

Coach Brad Childress, the man who dispatched the Ambassadors to Hattiesburg, wasn't scheduled to speak. Rather than tweak the schedule, he sent special teams coordinator Brian Murphy and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell to their regularly scheduled news conferences.

Poor guys. The only things missing were blindfolds and a cigarette.

Ultimately, however, the only thing that will be remembered about Tuesday is the Vikings played their last card and Favre came back. So it was a good day for the Purple.

This is a team with nine starters in their 30s and one in his 40s. This is a team with several key players in the final year of their contracts, including four from the vaunted defensive front seven.

That's why the Vikings should be excused for coming off desperate, clumsy and discombobulated. Having left themselves with no Aaron Rodgers, they did what they had to do to salvage what could be the most important season in the franchise's 50-year history.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
TheEngineer
14 years ago
Please get this crap outta the Packers forum.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
this is the FIFTH thread now ... c'mon people we're smarter than this.
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Pack93z
14 years ago

this is the FIFTH thread now ... c'mon people we're smarter than this.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



One monster thread verse a 20 page monster.. can we please get back to kicking the crap out of that Harrell thread.. lol.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Pack93z
14 years ago
BTW... you have three threads started on the topic since yesterday.. lol.. 😉
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

this is the FIFTH thread now ...

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Oops, my estimate was off by 20%. But that's still within tolerance levels. 😉
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

Catch the second one?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Indeed, and frankly, I couldn't agree with Thompson more. I can't imagine an employer in any other field lobbying an employee to stay with the same vigor that the Vikings have, and I appreciate that the Packers didn't stoop to that.
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