dfosterf
14 years ago

Like Zero said, Harrell's injuries have been the issue for most of his career. This is the first time his effort has been called into question. And it's only been called into question, not condemned. It was his body language in between reps that was concerning to McGinn and others, and I share their concern.

But the Packers haven't even played their first preseason game yet. We are on the verge of finally learning if we really have anything with him, so let's see what he can do. I'll be watching him on Saturday night.

"Greg C." wrote:



I don't want to say this is wrong, but I would just say that a controversy erupted when a JSOnline reporter (I forget which one) threw out basically a one-liner that we discussed at length two years ago regarding Justin and his off-season conditioning...

I want to re-emphasize that I am not calling this wrong, but that was certainly out there, fair or not. We never did decide on that, as the reporter failed to back up his claim.
bozz_2006
14 years ago
And it's only been called into question by one spectator.
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14 years ago
By the way, for those of you lucky enough to see the game, I hope you take copious notes. I trust *your* collective judgment of Harrell's performance more than I trust those who get paid to "report". So I want to know what you think after that game.

(I also want to know what you think of the OL candidates, but that's another thread.)
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Pack93z
14 years ago
There is a reason Harrell feels that people think he is lazy..

http://gnb.scout.com/2/971263.html 

Harrell knows what you think of him. You think hes lazy. You think hes soft. You think hes a bust.

I am getting tired of (hearing it) but its one of those things thats expected, he said at his locker on Wednesday. It probably wont ever go away, even if I go out and have a good season.



So wouldn't you as a player be challenged by that, fired up now deemed healthy and erase that notion?

I know I would.. and that is where my judgment is derived.

But I wave the white flag.. the majority says I am wrong.. great.. we shall see how it plays out.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

I give two shit is his name Devin Kugan.. it is the principle of the manner.

But we now have opposing comments from the coaches themselves.. so it is a mute point. Think this was carried out to far.. great.. then post those comments on page 2 and this subject is done.. lol.

"pack93z" wrote:



Punk, that confused me, lol.


I am with you that a man on his last chance should not be giving any indication of not giving anything less than 100%. If that's your beef, I'm with you.

I just won't blast the guy for it or look down on him until he fails in game situations. I only care about that stuff.

PRACTICE? WE TALKIN BOUT... PRACTICE?
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bozz_2006
14 years ago
Do you get NFL Network Wade? The game will be replayed on, I think, Monday at 3:00 central time.
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Pack93z
14 years ago

And it's only been called into question by one spectator.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



A paid spectator.. which has been echoed by Vandermuse, Nagler and others observing camp.. but that is okay.. the coaches publicly stated otherwise.. albeit they have a vested interest in coddling the kid and hope to recover some investment made in the kid.

Yes Foster.. this isn't the first camp that Justin's conditioning or work ethic has been questioned..

Again.. I am wrong.. I can accept that.. lets see how this plays out..
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
dfosterf
14 years ago
He is full of shit .



It probably wont ever go away, even if I go out and have a good season.



That part.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

There is a reason Harrell feels that people think he is lazy..

http://gnb.scout.com/2/971263.html 

Harrell knows what you think of him. You think hes lazy. You think hes soft. You think hes a bust.

I am getting tired of (hearing it) but its one of those things thats expected, he said at his locker on Wednesday. It probably wont ever go away, even if I go out and have a good season.

"pack93z" wrote:



So wouldn't you as a player be challenged by that, fired up now deemed healthy and erase that notion?

I know I would.. and that is where my judgment is derived.

But I wave the white flag.. the majority says I am wrong.. great.. we shall see how it plays out.



That was taken out of context. He has not been deemed lazy, that was thrown in there because he's not on the field and injured most of the time which gives the perception of being lazy ... if you're in shape that means you're not lazy and don't get hurt... if you're hurt that means you're not in shape meaning your lazy.

:spiderman:
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Pack93z
14 years ago


I am with you that a man on his last chance should not be giving any indication of not giving anything less than 100%. If that's your beef, I'm with you.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



That has been my beef and spelled it out more than once through this thread.. lol.

Last chance.. your ass better be going all out.. anything less speaks volumes in my opinion.

And even Justin understands this is most likely his last shot. lol.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
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