Cheesey
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"Stereotypes???"
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Cheesey
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We could start a support group.......but most men would be too stupid to show up.
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Now..... as most of you already know, i don't take myself too seriously.
The main reason i don't like them stereotyping white men as all stupid is, what is this teaching the children of this country? Trust me, these "messages" are getting into their heads.
So we wonder why men are becoming such weaklings? They are TAUGHT to be that way by the messages that bombard them every day from the time they are born.
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15 years ago
I will never be satisfied with the state of the law in this country until hitting a man in the balls is prosecutable as sexual assault.
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Now..... as most of you already know, i don't take myself too seriously.
The main reason i don't like them stereotyping white men as all stupid is, what is this teaching the children of this country? Trust me, these "messages" are getting into their heads.
So we wonder why men are becoming such weaklings? They are TAUGHT to be that way by the messages that bombard them every day from the time they are born.

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I have an 11 year old son.. and we talk about a wide range of subjects.. and him asking that if white middle aged America are fools are not one of them.

Personally, I think that argument better suggests that lack of effective parenting in this country over the impact of stereotyping on commercials on TV.

The reason it is done, is because we are probably the only demographic in American that wouldn't raise a stink about it.. but as Zombie has stated I am sure if one looks globally at American TV.. it isn't just "us" that are targeted..
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As wimpy as they are making boys today, just FINDING their "balls" would be a job.
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MassPackersFan
15 years ago

I know Cheesey has mentioned this before.

Why is it that women, and black guys, are never the butt of the joke in any commercials? Its ALWAYS the white guy. EVERY time.

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IronMan - You want to hear something more disturbing?

In commercials, men are stupid and need a woman to tell them how to do anything as they're completely mentally incompetent. But in Hollywood, violence against men by women is often funny. Violence against women by men is ALWAYS wrong. Even more disturbing, in Hollywood, rape against women is the worst thing in the world. Rape against men is comedy.

And it's not just white men. If you watched black TV, you'd see the same trends against black men.

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Have you seen American History X? Yeah... not very funny, that scene. I know what you mean, though. Joking about it is seen as acceptable.
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Shawn.....just because your son doesn't ask about it doesn't mean it's not subconsciously being "indoctrinated". That, and little girls are seeing that men are idiots too. Kids are like sponges, and pick up everything. They might not even realize it themselves. But i can't help but think that it influences them in some ways.
And yes, parenting is severly lacking today. I see kids talking back to their parents all the time. I would have never even DARED to do that with my folks. Now, i was NEVER beaten. But i got spankings. (Less then i deserved, i might add) Like any kid, i pushed to see how far i could go, and i learned VERY young that there was a line that if i crossed it, i would be very sorry.
My parents were VERY loving. But taught me to respect authority. And that there were CONSEQUENCES for my actions. I think that's lacking alot today.
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15 years ago

Shawn.....just because your son doesn't ask about it doesn't mean it's not subconsciously being "indoctrinated". That, and little girls are seeing that men are idiots too. Kids are like sponges, and pick up everything. They might not even realize it themselves. But i can't help but think that it influences them in some ways.

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+1 for this part.

Yes, kids are like sponges and Hollywood for years has been demonizing men. Let's take the race out of it though as black men on black TV are demonized as being stupid with black women having all the answers. If you're white and never watched black TV, take a day to do that and you'll say "holy ****, Zombieslayer was right." It's every bit as bad.

We will have a generation that has no respect for men. Why is this bad? Well, look at the way things are headed. Men are no longer going to college. It is men, not women, who can't find jobs in this economy. Men have TWICE, yes TWICE, the suicide rate as women. Men live 8 years less than women.

Also look at policy changes. Pretty much all the policies today favor women and men are pretty much guilty until proven innocent.

The male suicide rate difference will increase, not decrease in the future. You will see more men "give up" and become homeless and/or drug addicts. You will see more men no longer care about the future as it's obvious the country cares less and less for them every year.

Nonstop brings up another point about crotch kicking. It's comedy. Did you know that a hard blow to the crotch can cause death? My father actually saw a man die by a kick to the crotch. Yes, die.

For you guys reading this, listen carefully. TV has trained people to attack the crotch. When you see a kick coming in that area, lift your leg. It's the most effective way of blocking a crotch kick. Practice it. It may some day save your life.

Back to Cheesey's point, someone else brought up in this thread how during the Super Bowl, 5 commercials made men look dumb compared to 1 that made women look dumb. I'll have to find who said that and give them a +1.

I worked with a guy who lost a testicle to cancer two years ago. I overheard two women talking about it and they fucking LAUGHED. Imagine if a man laughed at a woman losing an ovary or a breast. He'd be fired on the spot.
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15 years ago
Mass - No, it's on my list of movies I still have to watch.
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TV is full of improper representation and bad principles for kids to see and hear.

Hence where you as a parent intervene, teach and raise your children to understand right from wrong, reality from perception, and where the lines of a joke end and real life begins.

Again.. why I say that it is a better argument for the lack of direction from parents vs. blaming TV commercials for the direction of this country via learned behavior of our children.
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digsthepack
15 years ago
In today's brave, new America. only men and Christians can openly be mocked and humiliated without the recourse any other group would have at their avail.

Look, we have geared K-12 education to cater to the learning style of girls....much to the detrement of boys.

Women outnumber men in this country, but I have contracts go to "minority" businesses run by women, based only on the fact they are run by women...not competitive bids.

Female teacher rapes a young boy....light prison sentence the then off to the talk show circuit.

Educational elites trying to tell us that men and women are no different psychologically, and gearing policy based on that.

Yep....men are acceptable targets in today's world. Personally, I am confodent enough in myself that it does not matter. However, the influence it has on women, and children of both genders, cannot be discounted. For that reason, I have a problem with this trend.
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Kingkoopa
15 years ago

Shawn.....just because your son doesn't ask about it doesn't mean it's not subconsciously being "indoctrinated". That, and little girls are seeing that men are idiots too. Kids are like sponges, and pick up everything. They might not even realize it themselves. But i can't help but think that it influences them in some ways.

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+1 for this part.

Yes, kids are like sponges and Hollywood for years has been demonizing men. Let's take the race out of it though as black men on black TV are demonized as being stupid with black women having all the answers. If you're white and never watched black TV, take a day to do that and you'll say "holy ****, Zombieslayer was right." It's every bit as bad.

We will have a generation that has no respect for men. Why is this bad? Well, look at the way things are headed. Men are no longer going to college. It is men, not women, who can't find jobs in this economy. Men have TWICE, yes TWICE, the suicide rate as women. Men live 8 years less than women.

Also look at policy changes. Pretty much all the policies today favor women and men are pretty much guilty until proven innocent.

The male suicide rate difference will increase, not decrease in the future. You will see more men "give up" and become homeless and/or drug addicts. You will see more men no longer care about the future as it's obvious the country cares less and less for them every year.

Nonstop brings up another point about crotch kicking. It's comedy. Did you know that a hard blow to the crotch can cause death? My father actually saw a man die by a kick to the crotch. Yes, die.

For you guys reading this, listen carefully. TV has trained people to attack the crotch. When you see a kick coming in that area, lift your leg. It's the most effective way of blocking a crotch kick. Practice it. It may some day save your life.

Back to Cheesey's point, someone else brought up in this thread how during the Super Bowl, 5 commercials made men look dumb compared to 1 that made women look dumb. I'll have to find who said that and give them a +1.

I worked with a guy who lost a testicle to cancer two years ago. I overheard two women talking about it and they fucking LAUGHED. Imagine if a man laughed at a woman losing an ovary or a breast. He'd be fired on the spot.

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Fantastic post. Could not agree more. The constant attacks on males through the media is going to have serious consequences, even more than it has already.
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15 years ago

Women outnumber men in this country

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Women outnumber men everywhere in the world.
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15 years ago
Yeah, I know...but we are discussing American culture, hence I confined my analogy to the U.S.A.
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15 years ago

Women outnumber men in this country

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Women outnumber men everywhere in the world.

"digsthepack" wrote:



I would like a woman.
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15 years ago



I would like a woman.

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Go to Thailand. Thai women don't hate men.
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15 years ago
This explains why everyone born between 1945 and 1990 is now a smoking cowboy.
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15 years ago
I once read a statistic that gave me pause: Supposedly as many as 75% of Thai prostitutes are in fact post-op transexual men. When I read that, I couldn't help thinking, "Are the men who patronize those prostitutes so ignorant that they can't tell the difference -- or so desperate they just don't care?"

I mean, I've seen plenty of pictures of post-op "neovaginas" (research for some work I was doing), and believe me, they do not look natural. You'd have to be seriously inexperienced not to notice the difference.

Hmmm, maybe that's why Asian women don't shave "down there." 😉
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15 years ago
By the way, there are two primary techniques used to construct these "neovaginas": turning the skin of the penis inside out (which has the advantage of providing reasonably good sensation) -- or, if the patient wasn't sufficiently well endowed to provide enough tissue for the procedure, using a segment of the patient's colon (which has the advantage of providing, ahem, copious natural lubrication).
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