bozz_2006
15 years ago
Agreeing with Zero, but maybe saying Clif is injury prone is going too far. Maybe we could say he's owie-prone. Or banged-up-prone. 😃
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Greg C.
15 years ago
The term "injury prone" has been kind of a distraction in this thread, in my opinion. Neither of these guys has had more than his share of injuries during his career. However, when you combine their ages with their RECENT injury histories, both are at high risk to miss significant playing time this year or even to have their careers come to an end.

This is not a knock on these guys. They are warriors, and I hope we can get at least one more good year out of each of them. But we need a backup plan, and thankfully this year we seem to have one with Bulaga and Lang.
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PackerTraxx
15 years ago
I hope they can play longer than just this year. Even when a younger player wins those positions we need capable backups. It would be great to have a couple of savy vets like this until the replacements have proven themselves and we have brought more young players in.
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warhawk
15 years ago

Zero - as for Cliffy and Tausch, I agree with Nonstop. They're both getting old and are both injury prone. Thanks for the many years of good performance. Yes. But I'm really weary of even the near future with both of them.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Mark Tauscher is injury prone? No, he's not. Look up his game logs. He's been reliable.

Now Clifton is injury prone, but doesn't seem to miss much time cuz of it. A couple games a season he's not accountable for and I believe its been like that his whole career.

My take on Clifton and Tauscher is ... shoving them out of the door BEFORE we have BETTER players to take their spot simply due to age is not wise. If they're still getting the job done, why mess with it? Of course we need to groom for the future and I'm all for that. I just don't understand why a few are so eager to usher them out especially when their still effective, far more effective than anyone else on the roster at that position.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



Clifton isn't really even all that injury prone. He has only missed I think 4 games due to injury (all last year) since he came back from the Sapp hit. He may get banged up some but he pretty much always plays. The guy is one tough SOB. He is penalty prone for sure but I don't think 4 games in however many years is sufficient enough to call the dude injury prone.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



He's had some kind of injury most of the time, but as I said, doesn't seem to miss many games.

In his 10 year career, he's played in 143 games, started 138. He's missed 17 games, which is what? 1.7 games a year? 6 games of which are related to the cheap shot by Warren Sapp in 2002.

After coming back from the Sapp injury, he only missed two games in the following six seasons.


So I say again. Tauscher I disagree with the notion he's injury prone.
Clifton is injury prone, but doesn't seem to miss much game time from them.

And I add again, I don't think we should usher these fellas out of the door simply because they are old. I say we groom younger BETTER replacements and when the youth talent level exceeds the veterans ... THEN we make the switch.

Right now, Tauscher and Clifton are working for us, let's stick with it and ride it out while grooming their replacements.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Besides that you move these guys out and all of a sudden we're one injury away from not being in a good place. I have said from the beginning SIGN CLIFTON. How apparent is it that we need him in 2010? Right now we have a good scenario with Clifton there and Bulaga in case.

Take that scenario away and say you don't have Clifton and then Bulaga gets hurt. Now what you got?

Trust me, we are going to be scrapping for a legitimate backup for Bulaga next year and prayin' he don't go down. I am very comfortable just how we sit right now with the Oline.
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RaiderPride
15 years ago

Zero - as for Cliffy and Tausch, I agree with Nonstop. They're both getting old and are both injury prone. Thanks for the many years of good performance. Yes. But I'm really weary of even the near future with both of them.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Mark Tauscher is injury prone? No, he's not. Look up his game logs. He's been reliable.

Now Clifton is injury prone, but doesn't seem to miss much time cuz of it. A couple games a season he's not accountable for and I believe its been like that his whole career.

My take on Clifton and Tauscher is ... shoving them out of the door BEFORE we have BETTER players to take their spot simply due to age is not wise. If they're still getting the job done, why mess with it? Of course we need to groom for the future and I'm all for that. I just don't understand why a few are so eager to usher them out especially when their still effective, far more effective than anyone else on the roster at that position.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



Clifton isn't really even all that injury prone. He has only missed I think 4 games due to injury (all last year) since he came back from the Sapp hit. He may get banged up some but he pretty much always plays. The guy is one tough SOB. He is penalty prone for sure but I don't think 4 games in however many years is sufficient enough to call the dude injury prone.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



He's had some kind of injury most of the time, but as I said, doesn't seem to miss many games.

In his 10 year career, he's played in 143 games, started 138. He's missed 17 games, which is what? 1.7 games a year? 6 games of which are related to the cheap shot by Warren Sapp in 2002.

After coming back from the Sapp injury, he only missed two games in the following six seasons.


So I say again. Tauscher I disagree with the notion he's injury prone.
Clifton is injury prone, but doesn't seem to miss much game time from them.

And I add again, I don't think we should usher these fellas out of the door simply because they are old. I say we groom younger BETTER replacements and when the youth talent level exceeds the veterans ... THEN we make the switch.

Right now, Tauscher and Clifton are working for us, let's stick with it and ride it out while grooming their replacements.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Zero,

That is the post of the year, so far.... in IMHO. Great stats and facts. I love shit like this. It gives me chills.

+1.
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Greg C.
15 years ago

I hope they can play longer than just this year. Even when a younger player wins those positions we need capable backups. It would be great to have a couple of savy vets like this until the replacements have proven themselves and we have brought more young players in.

"PackerTraxx" wrote:



But that's a luxury that no team can afford. You can't pay big salaries for backups, and I doubt that these guys would want to play for the minumum. That's why you don't see a lot of veteran backups in the league. When these guys are no longer good enough to start, they will be gone to make room for younger guys.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago

TWO WINS.

That is what Crosby will cost the Packers this year.

Two times this year the Packers will lose due to the fact he missed a FG he should have made.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



No. MM not stomping on our opponent's throat when he's down and almost dead will cost us more games than Crosby. We keep allowing our opponents to get back up.

I'd rather not see us in a position where Crosby is the hero/goat. I want to see blow outs, all year long, especially on 11/7.
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