zombieslayer
14 years ago
I'd take Payton over MM for the simple fact that I prefer Payton's aggressive style. He knows how to compensate for weaknesses by exaggerating strengths. Perfect example was last year, he had a mediocre D and won a SB with it. The team kept finding innovative ways to win games they should have lost, all year long.

(disclaimer - I do think MM is a good Coach, don't get me wrong. I just think Payton is better).
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blueleopard
14 years ago

I'd take Payton over Mike McCarthy for the simple fact that I prefer Payton's aggressive style. He knows how to compensate for weaknesses by exaggerating strengths. Perfect example was last year, he had a mediocre D and won a SB with it. The team kept finding innovative ways to win games they should have lost, all year long.

(disclaimer - I do think Mike McCarthy is a good Coach, don't get me wrong. I just think Payton is better).

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I wouldn't call that defense mediocre, especially one that includes Jonathan Vilma playing his natural position and Darren Sharper continuing to prove all the critics wrong.

Gregg Williams made sure the defense played smashmouth football all year, pulverizing teams that had the likes of Kurt Warner and Brett Favre--two QB's we literally had no answer for.
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RaiderPride
14 years ago
Ted is such a class act, a humanitarian, and honest professional.

"Ted Thompson, The Packers GM. Ted got right to the point. 'Hey,' he said, 'the process has gone well. We've decided to go in a different direction, and I wanted to let you know as soon as possible."

Note: Ted did not string Payton along. Did not play the game. Ted gave Payton the opportunity to handle the rejection before he announced it.

Ted made his decision. Then let Payton know in a professional, concise, manner.

This is a man who has a plan. And follows it, while respecting everyone in the industry. When one respects every candidate one is never burning bridges. Ted is wicked good at what he does, and how he does it.

That is a class act.

As a fan of the Green Bay Packers.... (That means the whole ficken organization.) Ted is my second favorite player on the team.
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doddpower
14 years ago

I'd take Payton over Mike McCarthy for the simple fact that I prefer Payton's aggressive style. He knows how to compensate for weaknesses by exaggerating strengths. Perfect example was last year, he had a mediocre D and won a SB with it. The team kept finding innovative ways to win games they should have lost, all year long.

(disclaimer - I do think Mike McCarthy is a good Coach, don't get me wrong. I just think Payton is better).

"blueleopard" wrote:



I wouldn't call that defense mediocre, especially one that includes Jonathan Vilma playing his natural position and Darren Sharper continuing to prove all the critics wrong.

Gregg Williams made sure the defense played smashmouth football all year, pulverizing teams that had the likes of Kurt Warner and Brett Favre--two QB's we literally had no answer for.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I agree. Williams deserves a ton of credit for their super bowl run. Without his defensive improvements, they wouldn't have won, IMO.

Dude put FEAR in the mind of those quarterbacks. I loved it.
zombieslayer
14 years ago
That D allowed 341 points. It was ranked #20 out of 32 teams.

That is mediocre.
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doddpower
14 years ago

That D allowed 341 points. It was ranked #20 out of 32 teams.

That is mediocre.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Stats don't always tell the whole story. That defense played mean in the playoffs.


Sure, the offense deserves just as much credit as the defense, but you can't minimize what the defense did in the playoffs.
TheEngineer
14 years ago
Just thinking, does anybody else think that Payton could have gotten as much out of Rodgers as McCarthy has?
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
Eng - No, MM deserves a lot of credit for QB development as that's his bread and butter.

Dodd - The O won the SB, not the D. That O was unstoppable. The D relied on takeaways because they gave up a lot of points. They gave up 28 points in the CG, which is a lot. But yes, they definitely stepped up in the SB. That's fo shizzle.
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Chutzpah515
14 years ago
Mike McCarthy seems like he can really develop players. I hate McCarthy because he can't call plays to save his life. Overall McCarthy has established an excellent program, developing loads of young talent, but Sean Payton is a far better coach.
Ted Thompson must have wanted someone who would remain completely subordinate to his every whim. Clearly Sean Payton was not his guy. Forget the SB victory, I have been sick about this decision ever since the Saints offense hit the field in '06.

However, all the fresh young stars appearing on the Packers roster, can not be good draft selection alone, otherwise Mike Sherman (BOOOOOO) would still be HC.
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11 years ago

I know I was pulling for Payton at the time.

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