Rockmolder
14 years ago
Payton got New Orleans but dreamed of Green Bay  

by Bob Wolfley

After three seasons as an assistant with the Dallas Cowboys, Sean Payton thought he was ready to become a head coach in the National Football League.

Early in 2006, several NFL head coaching jobs were available, but the one Payton wanted was the one in Green Bay.

Payton was more than a little disappointed when Packers general manager Ted Thompson called him to deliver the news he did not get the job.

Payton recalled that episode in a book titled "Home Team: Coaching the Saints and New Orleans Back to Life" to be released in June. A proof of the book, which Payton wrote with Ellis Henican, was made available by the publisher.

"I'd flown up to Green Bay and had a terrific interview with the Packers," Payton wrote. "That's a great organization - a team I had followed since I was a kid. I felt optimistic about that possibility and was expecting to hear something soon."

Payton is from Naperville, Ill., and his wife, Beth, is from Morocco, Ind. Both thought the Green Bay job would be a good fit.

"I really thought there was a good chance I was getting the Packers' job," Payton wrote. "Without a doubt, Green Bay is where I wanted to go. Knowing the tradition. Coming from the Midwest. Growing up around all that. And Beth too - I knew she could see herself in Green Bay, despite those winters that never end."

While Payton was in New Orleans in January 2006 to meet with Saints general manager Mickey Loomis, he kept checking his cell phone to see if 920, the Green Bay area code, was attached to a text or voice mail.

After talking to Saints officials, including owner Tom Benson, Payton was relaxing in his room at the Renaissance Hotel, which was still open after Hurricane Katrina, before going out to dinner at Tommy's Cuisine.

"I took off my coat and loosened my tie," Payton wrote. "I was relaxing on the bed, almost dozing off. The cell phone began to vibrate. I had a message from 920, Ted Thompson, the Packers GM. Ted got right to the point. 'Hey,' he said, 'the process has gone well. We've decided to go in a different direction, and I wanted to let you know as soon as possible. It hasn't come out yet. Please don't say anything until we announce it.'

"I wanted to cry," Payton wrote. "I appreciated the heads-up. But damn!"

The different direction Thompson was talking about was Mike McCarthy, who was named Packers head coach on Jan. 12, 2006.

But things didn't work out half-bad for Payton. He took the Saints job on Jan. 18, 2006, and a little more than four years later he was holding the Lombardi Trophy as Super Bowl champion.

However in recent days the thrill of winning the Super Bowl has been replaced with a much harsher reality. On Friday a former team security director filed a civil suit that included the accusation that the team tried to cover up the theft of prescription pain pills by senior Saints staff members. Payton issued a statement saying he was not involved.

yooperfan
14 years ago
I know I was pulling for Payton at the time.
Wade
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14 years ago
I'm not going to say anything here, given who I was sort of hoping for.

It ranks right up there with my beliefs that (i) Joe Johnson was a great signing, (ii) it made sense to sign Cletidus Hunt rather than Vonnie Holiday to a big contract.

But contrary to popular belief I *never* wanted Rich Campbell, Terrell Buckley, or Bob Schnelker.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
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dhazer
14 years ago
so in what 4 years he has led the Saints to a super bowl win and 2 NFC championship games, Hmmmmmm I would think he has made the right choice.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

so in what 4 years he has led the Saints to a super bowl win and 2 NFC championship games, Hmmmmmm I would think he has made the right choice.

"dhazer" wrote:



Keep in mind, the HC has to have the right GM pulling the trigger too. It wasn't just the HC that brought the Saints to glory, it was a lot more than that.


I would have been good with having Payton as well. If he's the guy from the Cowboys offensive unit, I liked him. I'm almost positive it was Sean Payton but some reason I'm questioning it.


Edit, here's something I haven't heard mentioned. What if Ted chose McCarthy because he ran the WCO or an offense closer to it than Payton? Keep in mind, Brett said several times while Sherman was here that learning a new offense would be very difficult and he wasn't sure he'd have the energy to do so. Wait, not a chance that Ted did something in FAVOR of Brett, cuz it's Ted that hates Brett! ::roll: lol
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TheEngineer
14 years ago

so in what 4 years he has led the Saints to a super bowl win and 2 NFC championship games, Hmmmmmm I would think he has made the right choice.

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Thought it was all on the QB to win games and the superbowl?
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dhazer
14 years ago

so in what 4 years he has led the Saints to a super bowl win and 2 NFC championship games, Hmmmmmm I would think he has made the right choice.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



Thought it was all on the QB to win games and the superbowl?

"dhazer" wrote:



I know thats not being pointed towards me because I have said it many times defense wins championships.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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TheEngineer
14 years ago
You've also blamed Rodgers excessively for losses before.

I know you DO understand it's a team sport, so I'll be sure to remind you next time somehow Rodgers slips up.
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Greg C.
14 years ago
Very interesting. Thanks for the article. Payton was a much hotter prospect at the time, so Ted went in an unconventional direction. I think McCarthy is about as good a coach as Payton, though. And I think Zero is onto something with the WCO thing. Also, McCarthy had served as Favre's QB coach at one time.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

so in what 4 years he has led the Saints to a super bowl win and 2 NFC championship games, Hmmmmmm I would think he has made the right choice.

"dhazer" wrote:



Thought it was all on the QB to win games and the superbowl?

"TheEngineer" wrote:



I know thats not being pointed towards me because I have said it many times defense wins championships.

"dhazer" wrote:



except when Aaron Rodgers is on the team starting at QB, then when the defense falters, it's still the QB's fault.
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