Joe Arrigo's NFL & Packers Mock Draft· Page 2

Rockmolder
Honored Member

14 years ago

#11

I'm thinking we ran the 3-4 defense in 95 and 96 i'll do some searching but I believe we did

"dhazer" wrote:

I'm pretty sure that we ran a 4-man line with Sean Jones - Santana Dotson - Gilbert Brown - Reggie White.

dhazer
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#12

I remembered them running it, here is Leroy Butler talking about it

Its not really that big of a deal and Ill tell you why, he said. In 1995, 1996 and 1997, we switched to a 3-4 defense in one week. Shut down San Francisco. Then, we went back to a 4-3. Then we played the Dallas Cowboys and switched to a 3-4 defense.

Its not complicated. You put more athletes out there. Youre taking out bigger guys. You take out the big lineman and you add a linebacker to get to the quarterback.

http://www.kenoshanews2.com/sports/leroy_butler_serves_up_thoughts_on_the_packers_4561026.html

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Rockmolder
Honored Member

14 years ago

#13

I remembered them running it, here is Leroy Butler talking about it

"dhazer" wrote:

http://www.kenoshanews2.com/sports/leroy_butler_serves_up_thoughts_on_the_packers_4561026.html

Ah, nice. Thanks for that. They played some kind of hybrid for a small period off time, it seems. I didn't know that. I can't imagine it being more than a few games and snaps, though, as nearly everything I've seen is in the 4-3.

beast
Select Member

14 years ago

#14

I do like the Mays pick and the comparison to Troy, if anyone has watched Troy he is not a very good man to man coverage guy, he is used more for blitzing and zone covering.

"dhazer" wrote:

:cyclopsani: Troy can cover man to man... is he the best? No but he's above average at it... Mays is ways below average at it... but comparison... other than they hit hard, play safety at USC... that's about where it ends...

RaiderPride
Senior Member

14 years ago

#15

Daddy Ted passed on Crabtree and picked a part-timer in Raji

"dhazer" wrote:

LOL

You Hate Ted As Deeply As I Love him.

We really have to get drunk together in a sports bar.

""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."

porky88
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#16

Mays is stiff in space too. You isolate him one and one and he's not reliable in making the tackle. He has the measurables to be a first-round pick, but in this deep of a draft, I think he falls to the 2nd round.

In this scenario, Mike Iupati and Sergio Kindle would probably play more of a role than Mays especially Kindle. I don't see how he lasts that long, but if he does, GB should be his stopping point.

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ILikeThePackers39
Registered

14 years ago

#17

I do like the Mays pick and the comparison to Troy, if anyone has watched Troy he is not a very good man to man coverage guy, he is used more for blitzing and zone covering. Mays will be used like one of the Packer legends when we ran the 3-4 and that was Butler. But time will tell but I would enjoy that pick even though I wish Dez would slip to us and we draft him just to see Dfoster go crazy like i did last year when Daddy Ted passed on Crabtree and picked a part-timer in Raji

"dhazer" wrote:

Holy crap, we agree. I'm sold on Mays as well (as sold as I can be about a draft pick, at least). I'm not sure there'll be a better OT there than he has the potential to be at safety, especially with Collins out there with him.

If a real LT prospect falls to 23, or if they decide it's worth it to move up to get one, I'd be okay with that. But if it's Mays or some LT reaches, I'd have to go with Mays, personally.

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warhawk
Senior Member

14 years ago

#18

I am not going to pick holes in this because this is a tough draft to predict.

I think it is fortunate that it looks like the draft is fairly deep where we need some help. Safety, CB, OT, and 3-4 LB's are plentiful this year.

I would say that not securing a pass rushing player of some nature is maybe not accurate. I would put somebody in the first three rounds that shows ability to attack and with Kampman gone Jones definately needs competition.

Names I would not mind hearing come up would be Safford, Washington, McCluster and a few others.

I think this Washington kid is a sleeper. First round talent with some prior issues that will drop him on draft day. McCluster fills two positions we could use some help in and I know I've heard Ted Thompson is interested.

If it's not Mays my guess it will be a Kindle or Hughes and a Safety around round 3. That's all a guess like everybody elses but I can't see Ted Thompson not going after somebody that can get to the QB fairly early on.

"The train is leaving the station."

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#19

Ted passed on Crabtree and picked a part-timer in Raji

"dhazer" wrote:

So you're saying that Crabtree would have started over Driver and Jennings right away?

I don't believe so. He would have been a part timer as well, and we needed a DT more than a WR. A LOT more.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

14 years ago

#20

Ted passed on Crabtree and picked a part-timer in Raji

"go.pack.go." wrote:

So you're saying that Crabtree would have started over Driver and Jennings right away?

I don't believe so. He would have been a part timer as well, and we needed a DT more than a WR. A LOT more.

"dhazer" wrote:

No, dhazer just likes to whine about everything Ted does, even when it turns out good in our favor. It's just who he is. Packers could go 19 - 0, shutting out every team with no turn overs and he'd say that Ted built a cocky arrogant team of talentless LUCKY bums.

Crabtree would have been battling Jones and Nelson for time. And would have lost if he missed those five games as a Packer. The 49ers are WR short, the Packers not so much, so the need to throw him to the wolves wouldn't have persisted as it did with the 49ers.

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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.

beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?

beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.

beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.

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