Pack93z
15 years ago
Rock... if you are going to pick up the guitar.. make the best of it.. if not... It is guitar zero land for you. ;)

UserPostedImage
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
nathaniel
15 years ago
As long as you're not buying your used guitar from a pawn shop, it's okay spending less for a guitar. Pawn shops are only worried about getting their money out of it, but the majority of people at a music store are snobs and they aren't going to let you leave with an instrument that is inferior or low quality.

The absolute worst thing you can do is take someone along with you who thinks they know anything and everything about guitars. Yes, talking to someone who plays so you can get an idea of what to look for its a great idea, but they're going to tell you what THEY prefer. Becoming a good guitar player has nothing to do with the wiring or even the look of a guitar. It's all about comfort and feel. It sounds so corny, but it really needs to feel like a continuation of your body. Different guitars have different action in the strings, and you need to find what is comfortable to you and what sounds good to you. You want a guitar that has a good weight for you. So many people swear by Les Pauls, and they are nice guitars, but the weight was a big deal for me.

Long story short, don't worry too much about all the technical things concerning your first guitar. Get something comfortable that you like and that sounds good to you. Once you learn more, you may want to upgrade, but don't break the bank on your first guitar.
blank
zombieslayer
15 years ago
What Nathaniel said is right on. Avoid pawn shops like you'd avoid a pack of zombies. The absolute last thing they are concerned about is you.

And yes, a lot of guitarists have their own prejudices. What works for them might not work for you. For example, I don't like Les Paul's either, but I do like Gibson SGs. Personal preference. However, you might pick up the Les Paul and say "wow, this is exactly perfect for my style of playing" and you might absolute hate how SGs look. You have to take someone along who will understand you, not just guitars.

We have different styles of music, different finger sizes. You and I will play scales and chords differently. The guy you take along has to understand that. You might like a cleaner sound than I might like, so you and I might like different pickups. Plus, one neck I might hate might work with your fingers perfectly.

You do need to see basics though and that's what I was getting at. Like, is the neck warped? Are the strings too high to be playable? Is the bridge garbage? Are the pickups garbage? Is the wiring so bad that it will have to be rewired?

This is just me, but I'm more worried about you getting something so cheap that you hate it than I'm worried about you breaking the bank. But then again, music matters more to me than money. That's just me though.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
alharrisdude31
15 years ago
try to learn right handed
i used to be a left handed drummer, but my set came as right handed (tom on the right, snare on the left, and all the cymbals mixed up) and i couldnt change it because it was so complex, it took about a month or so but i finally mastered it, now i cant play left handed because i havent in so long.
its going to be hard to find a left handed guitar for cheap, especially a starter one
maybe a custom acoustic?
Rockmolder
15 years ago
Thanks for all the help, guys.

I've got my mind set on a right handed one now, I think. Maybe a Squier starting set. That white Squier Strat looks great and, from what I've read and heared, it's a great starter guitar. And it comes in a starter pack. From what I've read, the only thing it struggles with is getting a full metal sound, but I don't like metal, anyway.

You can't convince me that I should pay more than 200 euros for my first guitar. Maybe I'm just a cheapskate.

I was thinking about buying it off the internet. I'm not used to anything right now. I don't know any guitarists, either. You know the problems I have, as well, Zombie. I don't want to get taken advantage off in a music store, either.

Al - You're right. Learning to play right handed shouldn't be too hard. It just takes a little getting used to.

Pack93 - I have one version of guitar hero. Never play it. It's great when it feels like you're making music, but I just can't get past the fact that I'm just pushing in colored buttons. And if that's the case, it gets boring really fast.
flep
15 years ago

Heck......Paul McCartney plays lefty! If he can do it, you can too!
It's weird, i'm right handed, but when i tried to play a guitar, i couldn't do it right handed. It didn't feel "natural" at all. But i gave it up, as i sucked at it.
So i stayed with singing only.

"Cheesey" wrote:



The well known story is that Paul is right handed but Brian Epstein asked him to learn to play the Bass left handed as the symetry in the way the group played on stage would look better
Formed Merseyside Nighthawks. British Champions 1992. Packer fan for 32 years
UserPostedImage


I feel very wrong now!!!!!!!!!
Rockmolder
15 years ago
Tried some starter lesson stuff on an acoustic guitar. I was horrible. And not just starter horrible. I was better with a right hand guitar that I turned around, than I was playing regular right handed guitar.

I'm going with a lefty. There might not be that much choice, but big whoop. Odds are that I hit a bargain on ebay faster, as well. And I'm a decently smart guy, if I say so myself, I should be able to learn it the other way around from a right handed instruction book/DVD/teacher.

I finally figured out what guitar I want, as well. I read a lot of reviews and decided to step away from the Squier strat for two reasons. The reviews all had it coming out pretty mediocre. Next to that, I'd like to play a little Foo Fighters, Lynyrd Skynyrd, a little rock. I'd like to have a humbucker on it. The strat only has 3 single coils. Maybe I'm aiming a little too high for someone who's just starting, but I'd like to play on it longer than 3 weeks.

So I pretty much got my sights aimed on an Epiphone Les Pauls Special II. It gets good reviews, it's pretty cheap and I'm hoping that I can get it in the starter kit that it comes in as a right handed guitar.

Again, thanks for all the help.
zombieslayer
15 years ago
That will probably be a pretty good guitar for you. 700T/650R pickups if I remember correctly are decent and Epiphone necks aren't that bad. I've played on the Epiphone SGs and they're pretty dang close to the real SGs, so I assume the Epiphone Les Pauls will be close to the real ones.

I think you made a good choice there, Rock. May you get several good years out of that guitar. If you get good at it, you always need a 2nd guitar anyways because it's kind of a given that a string will break when you least want it to, i.e., your first show or trying to impress that babe you've wanted to show off to for the past year.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
djcubez
15 years ago
Well it may be a little late but I'll at least throw you my two cents.

I got a starter guitar (YAMAHA) when I was around 10 years old to start learning. My mom made me take lessons for 3 years and I learned most of the basics: finger picking, basic chords, strumming, etc., One of the things I never picked up on however was the actual notes on the guitar (I still get strings confused to this day lol). However, despite not knowing notes I still loved to fool around and play.

Once I got to high school I quit guitar for a while. I had gotten an electric (Ibanez) that was great but it started to break down and I didn't want to play my acoustic because of how shitty it was to begin with (starter guitar).

Fast forward to college, I have no friends so I have to make new ones. Turns out that every other new person I meet "plays" guitar (I put plays in quotes because most douches count knowing a few Jack Johnson songs as "playing"). So first thing I did was bring my old acoustic guitar to college with me and with my limited knowledge I began "jamming" with multiple friends, probably one of the best experiences I've had musically.

Now here I am, roughly four years into college with my decade-old acoustic sitting in my lap while I type this. I just had it re-strung last week. I still don't know many names of the notes but I'm so musically inclined that I can put together good chord progressions by ear (I mainly play rhythm guitar).

So what does all this mean? That your guitar experience, just like everything else in life is exactly what you decide to make it. Once I learned how to actually play with people it became a lot more enjoyable and I found that I never really wanted to be a guitarist, just someone that knows his way around the basics of a guitar.

Also, learning by tab can fun but it really doesn't teach you much. I know people that can play 10 songs amazingly on guitar because they practiced only those tabs but have no clue what they're doing otherwise.

I'm definitely not your foremost authority on guitar in this forums but I thought I'd give you my guitar story. I also want to say that I've played trombone since I was 8 so I was already musically trained before I started guitar which probably made it a lot easier.

My best advice? Have fun.
Rockmolder
15 years ago
So, I finally got the guitar. Screwing around with it right now and the first thing I noticed is that two or three strings rattle quite a bit. Especially when playing the 1st fret.

Of course, this could just be because I just started playing the thing, but it doesn't look like too great a start.
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (2h) : (Context: he wants his defense to create turnovers)
Mucky Tundra (2h) : Giants DC Shane Bowen tells players to “be a damn pirate."
dfosterf (6-Jun) : Semper fi !
Cheesey (6-Jun) : This is why I have so much respect for those that have gone through battles
Cheesey (6-Jun) : I can't even imagine what that would have been like
wpr (6-Jun) : "Come on, you sons of bitches. Do you want to live forever?"
wpr (6-Jun) : Facing a line of machine guns 2 time medal of Honor recipient, First Sergeant Dan Daly told his men,
wpr (6-Jun) : Another detachment went into the Belleau Wood.
wpr (6-Jun) : On the 6th the Marines took Hill 142 but suffered terrible losses.
wpr (6-Jun) : It’s time to remember dfoster’s Marine brothers in Belleau Wood. The battle went on from June 1-26. Nearly 10,000 casualties.
packerfanoutwest (6-Jun) : Nick Collins and Morgan Burnett have signed with the PACK
packerfanoutwest (6-Jun) : he won't be wearing #12, maybe he will wear number two
packerfanoutwest (6-Jun) : He will fail this season, should have retired
Mucky Tundra (5-Jun) : Thus the cycle of Hall of Fame Packer QBs going to the Jets and then the Vikings is broken
bboystyle (5-Jun) : Rodgers to steelers on 1 year contract
Zero2Cool (5-Jun) : It's the cycle of civilizations. Get lazier, lazier, softer, softer and vanish.
Martha Careful (5-Jun) : great point. every aspect of society, including art, culture and sports has degraded.
dfosterf (4-Jun) : Green Bay sweep meant something to society about stopping pure excellence. We have the tush push now
dfosterf (4-Jun) : We old Martha.
Martha Careful (4-Jun) : *front four
Martha Careful (4-Jun) : Re frout four, I wish we had some Green "People Eaters" or a fearsome foursome
dfosterf (4-Jun) : *directions*
dfosterf (4-Jun) : Just don't ask him for driving direct
dfosterf (4-Jun) : Jim Marshall was an all-time great DE for the Purple People Eaters. Didn't like him. That's a compliment. RIP
Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : ooppppss
Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : “Kenny Clark played all of last season hurt by the way and got surgery to fix it in January”
Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : @ByRyanWood How much did the injury affect him last fall? “A lot.”
Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : @ByRyanWood Kenny Clark said he had foot surgery in January. Injured his foot in opener against Eagles and played through it all year.
Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : Golden is wearing guardian cap again. I bet he plays with it on too.
Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : All the stuff I'm reading from Lions fans are pointing at his toe; he more or less has permanent turf toe in one of his big toes
dfosterf (3-Jun) : Kenny played through it, and a shame he gets little credit for that, imo
dfosterf (3-Jun) : Big men. I hope it's not the undoing of Kenny Clark
dfosterf (3-Jun) : Probably his toe. Pretty much a great center. Toe injuries are brutal to bigen
Mucky Tundra (2-Jun) : Lions All-Pro C Frank Ragnow retires
wpr (30-May) : It's all good.
beast (30-May) : Yeah, and I enjoyed your comments and just attempted to add to it. Sorry if I did it incorrectly.
wpr (30-May) : Beast I never said Henderson was the salt of the earth. Nor even that he was correct. Just quoting the guy.
Zero2Cool (29-May) : What did you do??
Zero2Cool (29-May) : Whoa
beast (29-May) : OMG the website is now all white, even some white on white text
beast (29-May) : Henderson, who admits to taking cocaine during the Super Bowl against the Steelers, might dislike Bradshaw as he lost two Superbowls to him
wpr (28-May) : Hollywood Henderson said Bradshaw “is so dumb, he couldn't spell 'cat' if you spotted him the C and an A.”
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : Cooper stock=BUY BUY BUY
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : Also notes he’s playing with more confidence.
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : @AndyHermanNFL MLF says there was a time last year where Cooper was at 220 pounds. Now he’s at 240 and still flying around.
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : And don't even get me started on Frank Caliendos "impersonations"
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : I got tired of them being circle jerks with them overlaughing at each others jokes.
Zero2Cool (28-May) : It used to be must watch TV for me. now it's "meh" maybe to hear injury update
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : I haven't watched the pregame shows in years and I don't feel like I've missed a thing
Zero2Cool (28-May) : Love says knee affected him all season, groin injury didn't help matters.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
7-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

7-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

6-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

5-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

5-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

1-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

29-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

27-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

27-May / Random Babble / Martha Careful

24-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

22-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

22-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

21-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.