Pack93z
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16 years ago
Another gem? Or just another body?

http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2008/10/08/1/ 

posted 10/08/2008

The Green Bay Packers have signed defensive end Rudolph Hardie to the practice squad. Ted Thompson, Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations, announced the transaction Wednesday.

A 6-foot-2, 269-pound rookie from Howard, Hardie spent training camp with the Detroit Lions before being released in the final roster reduction.

Hardie will wear No. 69.


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16 years ago
Quick search...

http://www.detroitlions.com/bio.cfm?bio_id=517&season=10 

COLLEGE: Hardie closed out his college career as one of the more durable players in school history. He started in 33 consecutive games during his final three seasons at Howard and finished his career with 50 tackles for losses and 23.5 sacks. Hardie participated in the Texas v. the Nation All-Star game on February 2, 2008 in El Paso, Texas.

Named to the 2007 Sheridan Broadcasting Network (SBN) Black College All American team after recording 46 solo tackles, 24.5 tackles for loss, 11 sacks, two force fumbles, 10 quarterback hurries and a fumble recovery. As a first team All-MEAC selection, Hardie led the conference in sacks and tackles for losses and finished second in Football College Subdivision and tied for fourth in sacks.




http://www.draftace.com/profiles/2008/rudolph_hardie.htm 

Hardie is an intruiging small school prospect because of his size and speed. If he can run in the range of 4.70 as expected he'll easily climb up the draft board. He has the size and strength to play DE in either a 3-4 or 4-3 defense. He is a likely late-round pick, primarily because he hasn't proven himself against top competition, but he definitely has the skills earn a spot in the NFL.





http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=73856&draftyear=2008&genpos=DE 
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
bigfog
16 years ago
Here's what they said going into the draft about Rudolph


Rudolph Hardie = Super Sleeper?
We've dedicated the last few profile to skill position players, like Matt Forte and John Carlson, and now we will shift back to the offensive and defensive lines for the next few write-ups. Also, we will place extra emphasis on "sleeper" players that the Colts could draft in rounds 6 and 7; many of these players are pass rushing specialists like Howard's Rudolph Hardie.

While it is possible that the Colts will draft Georgia DE Marcus Howard or Purdue's Cliff Avril in rounds 2 or 3, that does not mean pass rushers in later rounds will get ignored. A player like Hardie is intriguing here, especially when you consider Indy's success with drafting late round defensive talent. First and foremost, Hardie played college ball at Howard, an African American college that does not play premiere talent. But I'm not one to put a ton of stock in the big school mentality. As I've said before, Laurence Phillips played a lot of college ball against top tier talent, and still sucked at the pro level. Vince Young and Reggie Bush played top tier college talent, and both are fading fast in the pros. Hardie's college, Howard University, runs a Tampa 2-style defense and it produced Colts starting safety (and Pro Bowler) Antoine Bethea.

The system Howard runs is a system very similar to Indy's. So, naturally, Indy's scouts take an interest when a player from Howard starts to make waves. Hardie was not present at the NFL Combine, but his production at Howard (in particular his knack for destroying QBs) and his university work out on March 11 impressed scouts. With Hardie, it is not his timed speed that wows scouts but rather his quick first step and non-stop motor. Hardie is also very stout against the run, as NFL Draft Scout notes, able to take on guards and tackles.

What also catches your attention is Hardie's amazingly consistent production. Many college players will have two or three years of "meh" production and then, in their senior year, they go nuts. Some of it is legit. Barry Sanders played behind Thurman Thomas at OK State, and didn't get a chance to showcase his super human talents until after Thomas left. Other times, the player just had a lucky season, and they are cashing in with the draft. With Hardie, his production has been so consistently dominant it is hard to ignore him. In his junior and senior seasons, Hardie averaged 23 tackles behind the line and 11 sacks. His 25 sacks in 2007 led the MEAC. He also had 10 QB hurries and 2 forced fumbles.

In addition to his production, Hardie also passes the "not a jerk-off" test:
Great bulk with a solid frame and long arms...Excellent production....A pretty good pass rusher....Is relentless with a non-stop motor...Has a great first step...Does a fantastic job in pursuit...Has a burst to close..Hard worker with terrific intangibles.

Regarding weaknesses, they are the same weakness we always hear about Cover 2-style DEs. Hardie is too short (6'1) and played at a Division 1-A school. I never understand how being 6'1 is a weakness at DE. Dwight Freeney is 6'2 and Robert Mathis 6'1. Last I checked, they were pretty good. Antoine Bethea played at Howard, and I recall seeing him holding the Lombardy two years ago. Hardie's real weaknesses are many in his technique and his instincts. Technique can be taught, but instincts are something different.

Despite these weakness, there is a reason Hardie keeps popping up on people's sleeper draft pick lists: He has the tools to become a very good pass rusher, and team looking for DE depth could find a gem in Hardie. Look for a Cover-2 style team, such as the Colts, Vikes, or Bucs, to draft Hardie.



http://www.stampedeblue.com/story/2008/4/7/16721/29459 
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16 years ago
One more..

http://www.stampedeblue.com/story/2008/4/7/16721/29459 

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"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Packnic
16 years ago
its pretty obvious to me that the front office places most of the blame with the Dline. there has been several articles about it just this week. and we have signed 2 DE's back to back.

Pass Rush = Wins and I am glad we are doing whatever we can to get it back.

as far as the signing goes, I love potential as much as the next guy but from what I have read it seems like more of a project move and that doesnt really help NOW. However thats what i thought about Atari Bigby, Pat Lee and Korey Hall and those three are contributing... so lets hope he can help.

p.s. KGB blows.

p.p.s. Love your siggy 93. thats exactly what the fans and team need to hear right now. Its amazing how relevant Vince still is.
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warhawk
16 years ago
If Detroit passed on him you know he's a player.
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Is relentless with a non-stop motor...Has a great first step...Does a fantastic job in pursuit...Has a burst to close..Hard worker with terrific intangibles.



That is enough for me.. seeing Thompson and Monty just muddle around out there.. anyone with a non stop motor and is a hard worker is just fine with me.
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p.p.s. Love your siggy 93. thats exactly what the fans and team need to hear right now. Its amazing how relevant Vince still is.

"Packnic" wrote:



Truly timeless isn't he.. I wish his ghost would hit the sidelines and start in a little on this team right now..

What in the Hell is going on out here!!!!!!
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Packers_Finland
16 years ago
I hope Kenny Pettway starts this week. Nothing can be worse than Montgomery.
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DakotaT
16 years ago

If Detroit passed on him you know he's a player.

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I know the Apocalypse is right around the corner now! We're picking up players not good enough to play for the Lions. WTF
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