Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Okay, who's posting as Shawn? That was too well written and even I understood what he said. What have you done with our Shawn? :P

"pack93z" wrote:



Hmmm, you really don't read a lot of my posts do you.. lol. ;)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Hah, it was more of a inside joke from your days in the Admin section when you'd say something and I had to ask you to give me pictures cuz ya lost me. 🙂
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Pack93z
15 years ago

Okay, who's posting as Shawn? That was too well written and even I understood what he said. What have you done with our Shawn? :P

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Hmmm, you really don't read a lot of my posts do you.. lol. ;)

"pack93z" wrote:



Hah, it was more of a inside joke from your days in the Admin section when you'd say something and I had to ask you to give me pictures cuz ya lost me. :)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



LOL.. Oh I can babble incoherently with the best of them. 😉
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British
15 years ago
I was going to post this in a seperate thread but it fits in here nicely.

The idea of the Packers functioning without a system with a hard salary cap it just couldnt happen, said Packers vice president of administration/general counsel Jason Wied, who is also attending the meetings.
It absolutely could not happen without the revenue sharing within the league and without a salary cap in place theres just no way. Theres no way we could hang around and compete with the large-market teams.



http://espnmilwaukee.com/includes/news_items/40/news_items_more.php?id=3040ion_id=40 
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Pack93z
15 years ago
I thought this was an interesting tidbit from his column.. that is a huge amount of coin.. that is 5.6 million a season in "bonus" income.

That should help the Packers bottom line.


b. It stuns me that in these economic times, the NFL can still print money, getting $720 million from Verizon for the mobile TV rights for the next four years. That's $22.5 million per team, on average, for a minor part of the media puzzle that no owner could have even imagined would generate a dime 15 years ago.

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15 years ago

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Revenue sharing remains a key source of potential controversy
Posted by Mike Florio on March 21, 2010 7:45 PM ET
We've heard from multiple league insiders who agree with our assessment that the current unity among NFL owners is fleeting, and largely confined to one issue: Squeezing the players into taking less money.

As to the issue of owners sharing the money that their teams generate, the potential for discord remains. Indeed, four years ago we believed that, absent a comprehensive solution, the NFL possibly could split into two leagues -- one made up of teams willing to share every dollar and another composed of teams with an "every man for himself" mentality.

Supplemental revenue sharing, the redistribution of wealth from teams making the most to teams making the least, has turned out to be a Band-Aid at best. Meanwhile, the traditional notions of sharing have been challenged over the past decade.

A league source tells us that, for example, the traditional 60-40 split of ticket money between home team and road team doesn't apply universally. Per the source, the Cowboys have finagled an exception for club seat revenue, apparently to help defray the costs of the North Texas Football Cathedral. Other teams have worked out similar deals, many of which transactions have received little or no publicity.

Bottom line? If the NFL plans to maintain competitive balance via a salary cap and a salary floor based on total football revenues, any new agreement must account for the fact that a formula based on total revenues will increase the labor costs for low-revenue teams. Absent a long-term answer to this specific problem, the situation will continue to create controversy every time a labor deal is due to be renewed, and it will only get worse as the gap in the revenues continues to grow.

In the interim, the challenge for the NFL will be to keep that percolating problem tightly under wraps. For the NFLPA, the mission is clear -- find a way to force this core issue to the surface sooner rather than later.

"dfosterf" wrote:



Revenue sharing is what keeps the Pack competitive.

How's about throwing Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder out of the NFL?
They can both play with themselves, as far as I'm concerned.

I LIKE that idea.



Sounds like a great idea for a BangCartoon, too.
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15 years ago
I am continally amazed by the number of people who don't understand.

1) Almost all revenues are shared. Television money, jersey and NFL gear, tickets, etc. Nobody is talking about ending that.

2) The only difference in franchises is local revenue. Luxury boxes, parking, concessions and the local Pro shop. Right now the top producers have to give part of that money to the bottem feeders.

Yes, part of the money spent at Lambeau goes to NFL welfare scum tlike the vikings.

That NFL welfare program should be ended. The Packers have the #1 Pro shop in the NFL. The Packers do well in local revenue.

Long term what harms the Packers is they have the largest stadium in the division and in the top ten of NFL. Soldier Field has the lowest capacity at at 61,500, the metrodome is 29th at < 64,000, Ford Field is 28th at 65,000.

The NFC East by contrast has FED Ex Field at 91,700, Meadowlands Stadium at 82,000, Cowboys Stadium at 80,000, and Lincoln Field at 67,500.

When sharing ticket revenue it would be better to have better partners. The vikings moving to LA is certainly in the long term interest of the Packers.
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bozz_2006
15 years ago
it would make my day if the vikings were shipped off to california.
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vikesrule
15 years ago

... The vikings moving to LA is certainly in the long term interest of the Packers.

"CaliforniaCheez" wrote:



Makes sense....it's the only way the Packers will win the NFCN anytime in the near future.

it would make my day if the vikings were shipped off to california.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



It would make my day if bozz if you were shipped to California........say a nice little church in Oakland. ::wink:
DakotaT
15 years ago

... The vikings moving to LA is certainly in the long term interest of the Packers.

"vikesrule" wrote:



Makes sense....it's the only way the Packers will win the NFCN anytime in the near future.

"CaliforniaCheez" wrote:




Yeah, you gutter whores can leave some of the groceries we bought you. Are you really trying to contribute to this conversation? Kind of like the welfare case giving his opinion on politics. Thanks VR.
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