Packers Franchise Pickett ·

Rockmolder
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Packers plan to put franchise tag on DT Ryan Pickett. working on long-term deal but will franchise by Thurs if can't reach extension

http://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/9548371603

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Rockmolder
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I love that we're this serious about getting him back. He was a great part of our defense. Maybe the most important part.

With Raji sitting behind Pickett, though, you'd have to think that we'd at least make a phone call to, for instance, the Bills, who are switching to a 3-4. They have no one at NT at might be willing to pay up some draft picks for Pickett.

Don't think it'll happen, but I wouldn't mind it. Even if it leaves us with little depth.

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With Raji sitting behind Pickett, though, you'd have to think that we'd at least make a phone call to, for instance, the Bills, who are switching to a 3-4. They have no one at NT at might be willing to pay up some draft picks for Pickett.

Don't think it'll happen, but I wouldn't mind it. Even if it leaves us with little depth.

"Rockmolder" wrote:

I'tl happen, Ted wont spread the word but im sure he'l look for an attractive trade and see what he can get.

if not, we just hold him another yar.

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I wouldn't be too suprised if they trade him. He's getting up there in age, and they might not want to commit so much money to the NT position when they have Raji.

That said, I hope he stays. I've always loved him.

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all_about_da_packers
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Franchising Pickett should be a no-brainer.

People are REALLY overvaluing Raji. Dude may be a top-10 pick, but he was nothing more than average in his time at NT while Pickett was injured; Raji still has a ways to go to bring his play to the level of Pickett the past year.

Remember, the Packers do work to limit Pickett's snaps. He may be 32, but he has not at all shown signs of slowing down with age. I'll concede that age can creep up on a DL remarkably fast, but considering Pickett hasn't shown any sign of that, and that he plays an immensely valuable position in the 3-4 (and played it very well at that last year), you don't even think about trading the guy.

Remember: a top 5 pick means you end up having to pay a rookie player more than 7 million; would you spend a boatload of money on an unknown rookie or spend some money (be it 7 million or higher) on someone who produces well at a critical position.

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"all_about_da_packers" wrote:

You'd expect your 9th overall pick to blossom in his 2nd year, if not in his first.

Raji has a year under his belt. He has all the physical tools and instincts to play the NT in the 3-4. He's just not the smartest kid there is. He needs some time to learn the scheme. And I believe that he'll fully grasp it and play well in the 2010 season.

Nothing more than a gut feeling right now, of course.

Like you said, DTs can hit the wall very hard. He's a 32 year old who's played in every single game since joining the league. Like I said, I wouldn't mind keeping him, he's a great player and the unsung hero of this defense. Having him and Raji rotate is one hell of a luxury. But still, the chance that he'll be the next Pat Williams is very small. Odds are, we'll get another 2 years out of him. If we can net an early 2nd for him in a draft as deep as this one, I'm all for it.

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Nothing more than a gut feeling right now, of course.

Like you said, DTs can hit the wall very hard. He's a 32 year old who's played in every single game since joining the league. Like I said, I wouldn't mind keeping him, he's a great player and the unsung hero of this defense. Having him and Raji rotate is one hell of a luxury. But still, the chance that he'll be the next Pat Williams is very small. Odds are, we'll get another 2 years out of him. If we can net an early 2nd for him in a draft as deep as this one, I'm all for it.

"Rockmolder" wrote:

You make great points Rock, and if Ted and Mike are sure that Raji is ready to be the full-time starter then you go ahead and explore trading Pickett for sure. I wonder if a second is fair value though - that'd be my concern. Pickett led all linemen on the Packers in term of tackles per snap last year, the third time he has done so in his four years here.

Also, Pickett is a guy you'd want in your locker room. Quiet, family oriented, you know he isn't going to get in trouble. Raji doesn't seem like he'd be a problem in the locker room, so maybe that works in favour of trading Pickett.

An aside, I was wrong above in stating Pickett is 32. He turned 30 the past season.... but your point about getting at most a couple of more years out of him may still be quite valid.

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15 years ago

Makes complete sense. He was probably are one potential UFA (after Kampman got hurt) who was worth using a tag on. Glad to see the Packers want to keep him around.

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15 years ago

Makes sense.. yet it is going to set a certain expectation in his salary.. in other words.. it is going to cost us a premium.

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In addition.. if this proves to be true.. that in all probability ends Kampman's stay in Green Bay.. I think if Kampy hits the open market.. someone makes him a deal that the Packers will see as overvalued for a player that struggled to make the transition and by all appearances wasn't overly thrilled about making it either.

Yes.. they could still transition him.. but again.. I see an offer coming that the Packers decline.. but maybe in a soft year in FA...

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I couldn't disagree more with the idea of trading Pickett, even if Raji is ready, which I think he is.

You need depth along your front seven whether it's a 3-4 or 4-3. Doesn't matter. Pickett and Raji play the same position, but they're both going to play a lot this year due to the rotation Green Bay uses. Not to mention, if Jenkins or Jolly go down or are suspended, Raji moves to DE and Pickett plays NT. If Raji goes down, I want a player of Pickett's caliber playing NT. You may say don't overpay for a backup, but Pickett isn't a backup. He's apart of a four-man rotation that plays close to the same amount of snaps.

Jenkins, obviously, plays the most for obvious reasons, but the other three need each other, especially as the season lingers on.

Franchise him and get him extended for probably three years. I'm guessing Pickett is pushing for four though, but they can compromise.

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Bear in mind too that the coaching staff has made no secret of the fact that they're grooming Raji to play DE, at least in the short term. I'm pretty confident Pickett stays.

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Makes sense, but I hope we're not resting on our laurels and taking too long to re-sign players.

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#14

So we are going to franchise him and let Collins walk? Damn.

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So we are going to franchise him and let Collins walk? Damn.

"go.pack.go." wrote:

Collins is only going to be a RFA and will definitely receive the maximum tender. A first & third rounder. A team would have to give that up in order to sign him away from Green Bay, and even though Collins is a great player, no team is probably going to be willing to give that up for Collins services.

In other words, Collins is going nowhere. The Packers biggest worries right now though with Collins is that he is probably a high-risk candidate to hold out until he receives a long term deal.

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So we are going to franchise him and let Collins walk? Damn.

"go.pack.go." wrote:

Collins will be a RFA unless the CBA is redone by March 5th... which we all have a better chance of Peppers being a Packer this season..

In other words.. Collins isn't going anywhere without the Packers getting value in return... or more bluntly put.. he will be a Packer next season.

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I wonder what Pickett's trade value would be. With Hampton, Wilfork and the guy from San Fran all likely getting the F-tag Pickett may be the ONLY quality D-lineman available.

At 30 he's no too old, we've kept his snaps down and last year he was rock solid vs the run. There just aren't that many big run stoppers in the league, let alone available on the trading block.

I'm all for keeping him for the reasons stated, but I'd love to know what some desperate team might offer up.

Rockmolder
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It's official.

Green Bay Packers placed their franchise tag on DT Ryan Pickett. The DT franchise tag is $7 million. Pickett not going anywhere.

"Adam Schefter" wrote:

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/9594107827

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sweet. I bet he gets a new contract worked out before the season starts.

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The last time we used the franchise tag, we traded the guy.

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