Porforis
15 years ago
I'm glad to see the world loves us now and are generally less pretentious.

First, from another article...

The United States leads the way among developed nations with $114.5 million donated as of Wednesday, according to the U.N. That's more than 28 percent of the $397 million donated to rebuild the impoverished Caribbean nation. The United Kingdom and France are next with more than $30.9 million and $16.8 million donated, respectively. Australia ($13.4 million) and Italy ($8.7 million) round out the top five donating countries.



According to Google...
US GDP: $14.2 Trillion US dollars at current prices
Italy's GDP: $2.29 Trillion US dollars at current prices

United States: 0.000806338028% of GDP
Italy: 0.000379912664% of GDP

Go fuck yourself. If America is expected to take charge and tell everyone what to do like you're suggesting (Which you'd complain about if we DID) and you can do things so much better, why not close your fucking mouth and take charge?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583829,00.html 

Italy's top disaster official blasted the U.S.-led relief effort in Haiti as a "pathetic" failure that is turning a national tragedy into a "vanity show for the television cameras."

Guido Bertolaso, the head of Italy's Civil Protection Agency, told Italian television on Sunday that the U.S. military "tends to confuse military intervention with emergency intervention," and that despite the presence of 13,000 U.S. troops there, "no one is giving orders."

He said there is a danger that aid will be lost by the "inefficient" operation.

Bertolaso threw darts at targets ranging from former President Bill Clinton to the United Nations, which he faulted for throwing aid packages at the island and hoping for the best.

"They thought they could bring something to eat and drink and the problem would be resolved," he told a television interviewer.

Bertolaso called for the appointment of a civilian international humanitarian coordinator.

Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini quickly distanced the government in Rome from Bertolaso's comments and said the Cabinet-level official was not speaking in an official capacity when he lit into the U.S.

"We have lamented from the first day that there has been a lack of adequate coordination," Frattini told Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera. "But this doesn't mean that Italy has any intention of criticizing the U.S. efforts."

Bertolaso is well respected in Italy for coordinating relief efforts after the 2009 earthquake in L'Aquila, which killed over 300 people. He showed President Obama around the area in central Italy when he visited for the G-8 summit in July.

The U.S. took over the only working airport in Haiti after a 7.0-magnitude earthquake struck on Jan. 12, killing at least 150,000 and leaving millions homeless. Dispatching 13,000 troops to the island, the U.S. has coordinated an international relief effort topping $1 billion in donations.

For its part, the U.S. has already sent nearly $184 million in aid to Haiti since the quake struck, according to the latest U.N. estimates. Italy has donated over $9 million, and like the U.S. has sent in recovery teams to help manage the living and recover the dead.

A spokeswoman for USAID, the government organization heading up relief efforts there, directed calls to the State Department, which did not return calls and e-mails seeking comment.

Bertolaso also struck out at aid groups sending millions in relief and hundreds of volunteers to help the struggling island. He said the forces helping Haiti were often more focused on public relations than providing assistance.

"Once they've arrived on the scene of a disaster, organizations too often think about putting up a big poster with their symbol on it, to look good in front of cameras, rather than getting to work to bring aid to those who need it," he said.

Bertolaso accused those aid groups of "putting on a vanity show for the television cameras instead of rolling up their sleeves," singling out Bill Clinton, the U.S. Special envoy to Haiti, for a special thrashing.

Clinton made a show of helping with water supplies during his time in Haiti, Bertolaso said, "but went back after a day."

Yet despite the horrific conditions on the ground exacerbated by downed communications and ruined roads relief groups say it's remarkable that aid is reaching people who desperately need it.

"Given the extreme logistical challenges in Haiti and the scale of the devastation, the fact that aid is getting through and is flowing and is being stepped up every day that's really good news," said Alina Labrada, a spokeswoman for CARE.

4PackGirl
15 years ago
are you f'in kidding me?? i think my skull just split a little. ARRRRGH!!!!!
zombieslayer
15 years ago
Just added Guido Bertolaso to my list of people who are banned from my anti-zombie compound once the plague starts.

You know what? Screw it. I say we stop all foreign aid, stop all interventions, and stop bailing out foreign governments. Let's let the rest of the world fall.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Not to mention remove ALL troops from other countries. +1 to Zombieslayer (again).
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15 years ago

Not to mention remove ALL troops from other countries. +1 to Zombieslayer (again).

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Yup. Let Germany and Japan defend themselves. And everyone else.

For the record, ever wonder why nobody hates the Swiss? I've always said we should be more like the Swiss. Everyone have a fully automatic machine gun in their house and when other countries fight, we play cards (or make watches or whatever the heck they do over there).
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digsthepack
15 years ago
Stick to pizza and wine, my swarthy commentator! By the way...what the fuck is Italy contributing to these efforts?
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Yes, every male is issued a fully automatic machine gun and 70 rounds (which he must keep locked separately) and he must demonstrate proficiency with the weapon yearly. There was a reason why Hitler never invaded Switzerland. It wasn't because that country was "neutral" -- it was because what with the armed citizenry, a complex system of tunnels, and mountainous terrain, it would have been suicide to invade. His vaunted Wehrmacht would have been slaughtered.
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15 years ago

Yes, every male is issued a fully automatic machine gun and 70 rounds (which he must keep locked separately) and he must demonstrate proficiency with the weapon yearly. There was a reason why Hitler never invaded Switzerland. It wasn't because that country was "neutral" -- it was because what with the armed citizenry, a complex system of tunnels, and mountainous terrain, it would have been suicide to invade. His vaunted Wehrmacht would have been slaughtered.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Not to mention it makes no sense to invade Switzerland when France is right there.
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Cheesey
15 years ago

Stick to pizza and wine, my swarthy commentator! By the way...what the fuck is Italy contributing to these efforts?

"digsthepack" wrote:


All the ravioli you can eat???


("F" Italy!)
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15 years ago
Oh yes....for some reason "Italian politician" makes me think of old Benny Hill skits.





The bad ones.



No, the really bad ones.
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