Green Bay Packers Past & Future Position Analysis· Page 2

dhazer
Veteran Member

15 years ago

I dont have to get on board until he proves he can make this a winning team lol. He had a decent year but i dont base 1 year on how good of a qb is after all Derrick Anderson i believe was an all pro last year and this year he was benched.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

#12

"dhazer" wrote:

I was thinking more Scott Mitchell with your last point.

Just as you don't have to get on board because of one season, you don't need to discredit his contributions to the team because the TEAM did not do enough to win more than six games this past season.

all_about_da_packers
Senior Member

15 years ago

#13

It was on tv his awesome passer rating of 46 in the final 5 minutes and he had 0 game winning drives but this is all old news i just got a kick out of how that writer tried to make Rodgers out to have done nothing wrong.

"dhazer" wrote:

The Packers, in a quarter by quarter break down, scored most of their points in the 4th quarter this season, if I'm not mistaken.

I'd also like to know where exactly the Packers were in the league in 4th Q. scoring. I'm willing to say they were in the top-10, but I can't find a site that keeps those stats so can't say for certain.

If you look at the larger picture, Aaron Rodgers failure to lead us to a game winning drive at the end is a fair critique.

However, he led the team to quite a few 4th Q. come backs this year. Yet they didn't win those games.... that reveals a deeper problem than Aaron's inability to play clutch, IMO.

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Pack93z
Select Member

15 years ago

#14

So I was curious about the final five minute rating...

So here are his stats in the final five minutes..


Week 	Vs.	Att	Comp	Yards	Comp %	AVCOMP	TD's	INT
1	MIN	0	0	0	0.00%	0.0	0	0
2	DET	2	1	9	50.00%	9.0	0	0
3	DAL	17	10	117	58.82%	11.7	0	0
4	TB	2	0	0	0.00%	0.0	0	1
5	ATL	8	5	70	62.50%	14.0	1	1
6	SEA	0	0	0	0.00%	0.0	0	0
7	IND	0	0	0	0.00%	0.0	0	0
8	BYE				0.00%	0.0		
9	TEN	6	3	33	50.00%	11.0	0	0
10	MIN	2	2	22	100.00%	11.0	0	0
11	CHI	1	1	8	100.00%	8.0	0	0
12	NO	2	0	0	0.00%	0.0	0	0
13	CAR	4	1	13	25.00%	13.0	0	1
14	HOU	2	2	62	100.00%	31.0	0	0
15	JAC	6	3	32	50.00%	10.7	0	1
16	CHI	3	2	11	66.67%	5.5	0	0
17	DET	1	1	16	100.00%	16.0	0	0
SEASON	TOTALS	56	31	393	55.36%	12.7	1	4

Per the Prime Computing site.. his rating would be 53.65.

He did run for one touchdown in the final 5 minutes of a game from the 1.

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porky88
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#15

"dhazer" wrote:

Aaron Rodgers isn't Derrick Anderson. Aaron Rodgers proved he could play at a high level against higher competition as he put up good numbers against Minnesota in week one, Atlanta, Indianapolis, Chicago, and even Carolina.

Derrick Anderson played good against the bad teams and bad against the good teams in 2007. Then near the end of the year he stunk.

I do agree that Aaron Rodgers is not good in the final five minutes and I also saw what you saw on TV. That doesn't mean he can't be though and Rodgers biggest problem is once he stops thinking about everything and starts playing, he'll win close games.

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blueleopard
Member

15 years ago

#16

Part of the reason why the Packers were so unsuccessful is that they never start fast. Don't forget to put that into play.

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all_about_da_packers
Senior Member

15 years ago

#17

Part of the reason why the Packers were so unsuccessful is that they never start fast. Don't forget to put that into play.

"blueleopard" wrote:

That's a great point. Outside of the Lions game, the Packers struggled in the early going, especially opening drives.

For a HC that practices short, crisp, and inside because he wants the players to get into rhythm, the Packers sure came out flat a lot of the time.

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dfosterf
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#18

Our offensive line sucked. It sucked bad. As everyone contemplates Aaron Rodgers, kindly factor that into the equation, and while you are at it...having read our "needs" on this team, factor that into the equation for the future.

This game is won and lost in the trenches. Our lines sucked. I don't need a statistical analysis. We cannot run the ball when we need to. We cannot give the 3.3 seconds Aaron Rodgers requires when passing, and oh, btw, our defensive line sucked also. Sucked, sucked, sucked.

Aaron Rodgers did not suck. Didn't, didn't, didn't.

There... I settled it. Settled, settled, settled.

(At least that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.)

dhazer
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#19

"porky88" wrote:

"dhazer" wrote:

Ummmmmm i would be curious to see what rodgers could do against Pitt and the Ravens twice that would kill any qbs stats

I also want to add i rewatched the colts game and saw something that brings up a good question. The packers were inside the 20 Rodgers throws a pass and it almost gets picked. The next 2 plays are runs so it makes me wonder how many times Mike McCarthy did this because of no faith in the kid.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

#20

"dhazer" wrote:

"porky88" wrote:

Ummmmmm i would be curious to see what rodgers could do against Pitt and the Ravens twice that would kill any qbs stats

"dhazer" wrote:

Curious? Is he being traded, if not I'm not sure why this was mentioned in this thread at all. Oh, because you have to find any possible way to discredit him. Gotcha.

9 QB's that played the Ravens had better stats than their QB.
6 QB's that played the Steelers had better stats than their QB.

I don't think that means a lot since the Ravens had a Rookie QB and I don't think Ben is that great of a QB, especially since both teams are predominantly run oriented.

Pressure defenses take advantage of poor decisions and poor throws. Rodgers doesn't have a knack for either of those attributes so I think he'd fair 'OK' against those teams. Although I think we'd lose the game in the final damn minutes.

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