Stevetarded
15 years ago

Every single coach in the league and every single coach you could find would play it exactly like the Packers did yesterday.

"Fred" wrote:



"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect."--Mark Twain

The minority is sometimes right; the majority always wrong.--George Bernard Shaw

The majority of men meet with failure because of their lack of persistence in creating new plans to take the place of those which fail.--Napoleon Hill

Truth always rests with the minority, and the minority is always stronger than the majority, because the minority is generally formed by those who really have an opinion, while the strength of a majority is illusory, formed by the gangs who have no opinion -- and who, therefore, in the next instant (when it is evident that the minority is the stronger) assume its opinion . . . while truth again reverts to a new minority.--Soren Kierkegaard

The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.--Marcus Aurelius

I think that's enough. :magnifyglass:

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



The "majority" of posters on this site believe in Ted Thompson, Mike McCarthy, and Aaron Rodgers.

:lol:

"brnt247" wrote:



The "majority" of posters on this site are "packer" fans that support the team on the field and don't obsess over someone who isn't on the team anymore.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Believing that Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy should be given another year before being fired is not the same as "believing" in them in the sense that you, for example, "believe" in Brett Favre.

In this case, I happen to concur  with the majority, in that I conclude Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy should be retained another season. However, if you examine the arguments on this site closely, you will find a surprisingly broad diversity of strong rationales for that conclusion. And NONE of them are based on "belief" or "faith."
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Fred
15 years ago
I knew you'd punt when backed into a corner of your own illogic, you use semantic smoke and mirrors.

Your "belief" in TT, MM, and Aaron Rodgers in the face of all logic is firmly rooted in dogma, and not logic or rationality, as you claim.
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Rios39
15 years ago
Well I'd rather go down swinging then to not give the ball to our best players (Rodgers, Jennings, Driver, Nelson, Jones). The only time we do that is when teams are dropped back into 8 man coverage and we are down by 4 with 1 minute left.
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warhawk
15 years ago
It all sounds great and everything but then again I can just imagine what would happen on this forum if McCarthy did turn him loose and there was a misfortunate turnover. A tipped ball at the LOS or INT that bounces off the receiver or a fumble after the catch and people here go APE crap on McCarthy AND Rodgers.

I can understand the thinking "hey, let's get the monkey off Rodgers back" logic but the bottom line here is the OL is payed to block, Crosby is paid to make FG's, and Mike McCarthy is paid to win football games.

I think the team is in a lot bigger trouble if they start changing WHY they make the decisions they should make. What's ironinc about this thread with a "help the young QB" theme is that if everything worked out the way they should have last night there would have been a LOT of people saying "oh yeah, he played it conservative to get Rodgers the win."

I don't understand why every time something doesn't work the way it's supposed there is something WRONG and so many are off in far, far places looking for the answers.

It's Rodgers arm, it's Rodgers head, it's Rodgers inability to produce late in games, it's because Rodgers ain't Favre, it's McCarthy who can't call plays, McCarthy who can't coach, McCarthy who can't whatever.

I could swear all I saw was an offensive line that didn't block very well and a kick that didn't appear to get high enough fast enough in a place on the field where it should have been ROUTINE. At least the other guy made the same kick look pretty routine to me a couple of minutes later.

Didn't that look routine to you?
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brnt247
15 years ago
You guys just aren't making sense. The game was won. We were in field goal position and we have one of the best kickers in the game and he has played in cold weather his whole life. You drive your team down to field goal position and you kick the field goal. That is what every single coach, assistant coach, anybody hoping to be a coach, and anyone who knows anything about football would do. Regardless of the outcome, Rodgers did what he had to to win that football game. He got the team down the field and put them in great position to kick a game winning field goal. Just because it didn't work out doesn't mean it was the correct move.
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all_about_da_packers
15 years ago

It all sounds great and everything but then again I can just imagine what would happen on this forum if McCarthy did turn him loose and there was a misfortunate turnover. A tipped ball at the LOS or INT that bounces off the receiver or a fumble after the catch and people here go APE crap on McCarthy AND Rodgers.

I can understand the thinking "hey, let's get the monkey off Rodgers back" logic but the bottom line here is the OL is payed to block, Crosby is paid to make FG's, and Mike McCarthy is paid to win football games.

I think the team is in a lot bigger trouble if they start changing WHY they make the decisions they should make. What's ironinc about this thread with a "help the young QB" theme is that if everything worked out the way they should have last night there would have been a LOT of people saying "oh yeah, he played it conservative to get Rodgers the win."

I don't understand why every time something doesn't work the way it's supposed there is something WRONG and so many are off in far, far places looking for the answers.

It's Rodgers arm, it's Rodgers head, it's Rodgers inability to produce late in games, it's because Rodgers ain't Favre, it's McCarthy who can't call plays, McCarthy who can't coach, McCarthy who can't whatever.

I could swear all I saw was an offensive line that didn't block very well and a kick that didn't appear to get high enough fast enough in a place on the field where it should have been ROUTINE. At least the other guy made the same kick look pretty routine to me a couple of minutes later.

Didn't that look routine to you?

"warhawk" wrote:



^ Very, very well said. Couldn't agree with you more warhawk.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I disagree with the playcalling on a philosophical level. It has nothing to do with whether it succeeds or fails -- I just don't like it. Had Crosby's FG attempt split the uprights, I still would have complained that it was a boring and anticlimactic way to limp into a victory. Given the choice between a game-winning TD pass from Rodgers and a game-winning FG from Crosby, I'll choose the TD pass every single time.

I could understand playing the percentages if we had a mediocre QB; but we have a fantastic, top-ten QB -- who's a first-year starter at that. I could understand the concern about a possible red-zone turnover if Rodgers had a history of screwing up in the red zone, but he is the best red-zone quarterback in the NFL this year.

We just have to agree to disagree, because my objections have nothing to do with the fact the FG attempt failed. I was vociferously protesting the play choices as they lined up. It was the same tired, old formula that's taken us nowhere this season.
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ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

I disagree with the playcalling on a philosophical level. It has nothing to do with whether it succeeds or fails -- I just don't like it. Had Crosby's FG attempt split the uprights, I still would have complained that it was a boring and anticlimactic way to limp into a victory. Given the choice between a game-winning TD pass from Rodgers and a game-winning FG from Crosby, I'll choose the TD pass every single time.

I could understand playing the percentages if we had a mediocre QB; but we have a fantastic, top-ten QB -- who's a first-year starter at that. I could understand the concern about a possible red-zone turnover if Rodgers had a history of screwing up in the red zone, but he is the best red-zone quarterback in the NFL this year.

We just have to agree to disagree, because my objections have nothing to do with the fact the FG attempt failed. I was vociferously protesting the play choices as they lined up. It was the same tired, old formula that's taken us nowhere this season.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:




Oddly enough, I was quite the opposite. I was begging them to run it, kill clock, and get the field goal so the Bears wouldn't have a chance to run a kick back and/or run it down our poor D's throat, yet again.

And then ST crapped themselves yet again, making it a moot point.

When anything that can go wrong does go wrong, you just have to know it's not your year.
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warhawk
15 years ago

I disagree with the playcalling on a philosophical level. It has nothing to do with whether it succeeds or fails -- I just don't like it. Had Crosby's FG attempt split the uprights, I still would have complained that it was a boring and anticlimactic way to limp into a victory. Given the choice between a game-winning TD pass from Rodgers and a game-winning FG from Crosby, I'll choose the TD pass every single time.

I could understand playing the percentages if we had a mediocre QB; but we have a fantastic, top-ten QB -- who's a first-year starter at that. I could understand the concern about a possible red-zone turnover if Rodgers had a history of screwing up in the red zone, but he is the best red-zone quarterback in the NFL this year.

We just have to agree to disagree, because my objections have nothing to do with the fact the FG attempt failed. I was vociferously protesting the play choices as they lined up. It was the same tired, old formula that's taken us nowhere this season.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Well Nonstop, that's the difference between fans and coaches who are paid to produce don't you think? You want the courageous, "go for it all" mentality to prove they have balls and McCarthy wants a damn "W" after several frustrating losses in a row.

Since that's what he's paid to do I don't blame him. I mean Mike McCarthy is not going to sit down with Management at the end of the season and be graded by how many "boring and anti-climactic" games he won so I think that's a little much to ask for.

I mean I like games where the QB's running down the field after a great TD pass with his #1 finger in the air jumping on the receivers just like anybody else but truth be known I just wanted to beat the dang Bears and could care less how the last points came about that got that done.

And you can bet your WILLIE Mike McCarthy feels the same way.
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