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Offline porky88  
#1 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:07:13 PM(UTC)
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He combined an aggressive nature with brilliant clock management. Every coach, including Mike McCarthy, should pay attention to what he did. The Saints ran a draw on third and long to setup Garrett Hartley with a field goal. Instead of letting the clock run to the two-minute warning, Payton took a timeout with 2:11 remaining. During the telecast, Joe Buck questioned the timeout. He would later presume Payton didn’t want Hartley to kick after a long break following the two-minute warning. He was wrong. Payton was saving time in case New Orleans got the ball back.

Hartley made the kick to tie the game with 2:06 remaining. As was accustom throughout the game, the kickoff was a touchback, so no time ran off the clock. San Francisco had to run a play before the two-minute warning. You could argue this was also saving time for the 49ers, but they were going to have at least two minutes and a timeout remaining. Time wasn’t much of a factor in their case.

Regardless, the Saints sacked Kaepernick on first down, and Payton again called a timeout with 2:01 remaining, forcing the 49ers to run another play before the two-minute warning. Two plays later, Kaepernick inexplicably ran out of bounds on a third and long, allowing the Saints to keep their last timeout. The 49ers had to punt the ball with 1:48 remaining.

Because of Payton’s clock management and Kaepernick’s mistake, the Saints got the ball back with a 1:41 remaining and one timeout. They probably saved about 30 seconds. I can’t remember the last time I saw a coach use his timeouts as wisely as Payton did.
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#2 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:11:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: porky88 Go to Quoted Post
He combined an aggressive nature with brilliant clock management. Every coach, including Mike McCarthy, should pay attention to what he did. The Saints ran a draw on third and long to setup Garrett Hartley with a field goal. Instead of letting the clock run to the two-minute warning, Payton took a timeout with 2:11 remaining. During the telecast, Joe Buck questioned the timeout. He would later presume Payton didn’t want Hartley to kick after a long break following the two-minute warning. He was wrong. Payton was saving time in case New Orleans got the ball back.

Hartley made the kick to tie the game with 2:06 remaining. As was accustom throughout the game, the kickoff was a touchback, so no time ran off the clock. San Francisco had to run a play before the two-minute warning. You could argue this was also saving time for the 49ers, but they were going to have at least two minutes and a timeout remaining. Time wasn’t much of a factor in their case.

Regardless, the Saints sacked Kaepernick on first down, and Payton again called a timeout with 2:01 remaining, forcing the 49ers to run another play before the two-minute warning. Two plays later, Kaepernick inexplicably ran out of bounds on a third and long, allowing the Saints to keep their last timeout. The 49ers have to punt the ball with 1:48 remaining.

Because of Payton’s clock management and Kaepernick’s mistake, the Saints got the ball back with a 1:41 remaining and one timeout. They probably saved about 30 seconds. I can’t remember the last time I saw a coach use his timeouts as wisely as Payton did.


Too bad he has that scandal on his resume'; might keep him out of the hall of fame. I'd love to see him coach Rodgers and bring out even more potential.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:23:25 PM(UTC)
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I thought it was a great bit of coaching too. I always loved Payton as a coach.

Still don't know how that wasn't a safety though at the end. Refs seemed to not want to decide the game on a penalty.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:29:58 PM(UTC)
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I thought it was a great bit of coaching too. I always loved Payton as a coach.

Still don't know how that wasn't a safety though at the end. Refs seemed to not want to decide the game on a penalty.


It was a safety, Kaep was not outside the right tackle. Would have been fun to watch Harbaugh explode on that one.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:38:51 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
It was a safety, Kaep was not outside the right tackle. Would have been fun to watch Harbaugh explode on that one.


Seemed weird to not throw the flag after the long delay for the flag on the New Orleans possession prior on the intentional grounding of Brees. I don't think the Saints could have run out the clock on the kick after the safety, but one first down I think would have done it.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:17:15 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla Go to Quoted Post
Seemed weird to not throw the flag after the long delay for the flag on the New Orleans possession prior on the intentional grounding of Brees. I don't think the Saints could have run out the clock on the kick after the safety, but one first down I think would have done it.


It's not weird, teams get screwed every week in the NFL. Today the correct team one that game in spite of the bad call.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:42:49 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: porky88 Go to Quoted Post
He combined an aggressive nature with brilliant clock management. Every coach, including Mike McCarthy, should pay attention to what he did. The Saints ran a draw on third and long to setup Garrett Hartley with a field goal. Instead of letting the clock run to the two-minute warning, Payton took a timeout with 2:11 remaining. During the telecast, Joe Buck questioned the timeout. He would later presume Payton didn’t want Hartley to kick after a long break following the two-minute warning. He was wrong. Payton was saving time in case New Orleans got the ball back.

Hartley made the kick to tie the game with 2:06 remaining. As was accustom throughout the game, the kickoff was a touchback, so no time ran off the clock. San Francisco had to run a play before the two-minute warning. You could argue this was also saving time for the 49ers, but they were going to have at least two minutes and a timeout remaining. Time wasn’t much of a factor in their case.

Regardless, the Saints sacked Kaepernick on first down, and Payton again called a timeout with 2:01 remaining, forcing the 49ers to run another play before the two-minute warning. Two plays later, Kaepernick inexplicably ran out of bounds on a third and long, allowing the Saints to keep their last timeout. The 49ers had to punt the ball with 1:48 remaining.

Because of Payton’s clock management and Kaepernick’s mistake, the Saints got the ball back with a 1:41 remaining and one timeout. They probably saved about 30 seconds. I can’t remember the last time I saw a coach use his timeouts as wisely as Payton did.


I remember a game where the Dolphins were losing by a couple of scores and the team they were playing was moving the ball quite well. At about the 5 minute mark Shula called a TO for no apparent reason. After the next play he called another one. They got the ball back, scored quickly, stopped the other team and scored again to win the game. While 5 minutes out may seem a bit early to be calling TOs to save time it worked for the Dolphins in that game and it worked for Payton today. McCarthy wastes far too much time and he seems to want to hold all his timeouts for the last 20 or 30 seconds for some reason, his clock management skills are one of his weakest attributes if you ask me.

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