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Zero2Cool
2022-08-05T12:30:03Z
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No. 9: Christian Watson, WR, Green Bay Packers
Watson was No. 82 for a couple of days, but by the time he hit the field for rookie minicamp a week after the draft, he had switched to No. 9.

"That was just kind of the jersey number that got thrown at me right away," Watson said. "In the moment I was just excited about being drafted and I was like, 'Yeah, let's goooo!' Then I thought about it and I was like, 'Do you have any other options?' So I just asked what the other options were and I decided on 9."

Watson wore No. 1 at North Dakota State, but no one has worn that number in a game for the Packers since Curly Lambeau in 1926.

"I talked to a lot of people obviously, but at the end of the day, I'm the one wearing the number," Watson said. "It's not really about the number, but 9 was the one." -- Rob Demovsky

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beast
2022-08-05T15:46:19Z
I still think teams should come up with some retirement number system, where the number stays retired for x number of years.

Like say 50, 75 or 100 years...

Because unless the NFL starts allowing guys to wear three digits, they're going to run out of numbers if they keep fully retiring numbers and that puts the pause on them actually retiring a number of so many are already retired.

Also, I'm still confused about the unofficial retired numbers...

Packers officially retired numbers are 3, 4, 14, 15, 66 and 92.

While numbers 1 and 5 are unofficially retired...

Can you name the players that all the numbers were retired for?
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Zero2Cool
2022-08-05T17:06:49Z
Originally Posted by: beast 

I still think teams should come up with some retirement number system, where the number stays retired for x number of years.



When Dale Earnhardt Sr died, I changed my tune on retired numbers. Rather, I formed a strong stance. Richard Childress did what I have felt is best. Kept the number, but didn't use it for several years. Guess what, when the number was used, we heard more and more stories about Dale Sr. I feel the same thing should happen in the NFL. Put the number in the ring of honor with their name, retire it for a generation (25 years) and then bring it back. There are only 99 numbers in NFL. Bring them back and let the memories flow!
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stevegb
2022-08-06T07:33:54Z
In Australia, in our country's main sport if a great of a team retires we have that player award the new rookie with their number in a bit of a ceremony sort of thing amongst the players. Like a passing of the torch sort of thing.
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2022-08-06T12:53:32Z
Originally Posted by: stevegb 

In Australia, in our country's main sport if a great of a team retires we have that player award the new rookie with their number in a bit of a ceremony sort of thing amongst the players. Like a passing of the torch sort of thing.



That's a great tradition. The problem is it's not a tradition in the U.S. If it was used here it wouldn't be used in all the sports at the same time and would seem to be awkward and forced. It would probably take 50 years to feel normal.

Just use triple numbers. It's not that big of a deal. There's nothing to it. In the 1950's and 60's tv cameras couldn't pick up the numbers as easily as they can today.
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beast
2022-08-07T16:57:15Z
Originally Posted by: wpr 

Just use triple numbers. It's not that big of a deal. There's nothing to it. In the 1950's and 60's tv cameras couldn't pick up the numbers as easily as they can today.



I'm not nessarily against that, but the rules would have to change, to both allow it, and allow so that they numbers didn't have to be so big... so they can fit it on a jersey.

And I think we all know how extremely extremely slow the NFL is to changing rules, without a lawsuit threaten ... so I just don't see this happening, even if it's the easy and smart solution.

NFL often doesn't do the easy and smart thing...

So I think they should just limit it to a certain amount of years. Minimum of 20... probably 25 to 50.
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Mucky Tundra
2022-08-07T17:24:00Z
Originally Posted by: beast 

I still think teams should come up with some retirement number system, where the number stays retired for x number of years.

Like say 50, 75 or 100 years...

Because unless the NFL starts allowing guys to wear three digits, they're going to run out of numbers if they keep fully retiring numbers and that puts the pause on them actually retiring a number of so many are already retired.

Also, I'm still confused about the unofficial retired numbers...

Packers officially retired numbers are 3, 4, 14, 15, 66 and 92.

While numbers 1 and 5 are unofficially retired...

Can you name the players that all the numbers were retired for?



Off the top of my head (and not in order): Tony Canadeo, Don Hutson, Bart Starr, Ray Nitschke, Brett Favre and Reggie White.

The unofficial numbers are Paul Hornung and Curly Lambeau (I'll admit I had to look this one up).

Originally Posted by: beast 

I'm not nessarily against that, but the rules would have to change, to both allow it, and allow so that they numbers didn't have to be so big... so they can fit it on a jersey.

And I think we all know how extremely extremely slow the NFL is to changing rules, without a lawsuit threaten ... so I just don't see this happening, even if it's the easy and smart solution.

NFL often doesn't do the easy and smart thing...

So I think they should just limit it to a certain amount of years. Minimum of 20... probably 25 to 50.



Is there a rule against team additions to jerseys? Maybe something like a team patch or logo indicating that numbers importance in history?

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2022-08-07T17:44:33Z
Originally Posted by: beast 

I'm not nessarily against that, but the rules would have to change, to both allow it, and allow so that they numbers didn't have to be so big... so they can fit it on a jersey.

And I think we all know how extremely extremely slow the NFL is to changing rules, without a lawsuit threaten ... so I just don't see this happening, even if it's the easy and smart solution.


What is this madness of which you speak? The NFL changing rules? Nay let it not be so. Tis horrendous to have the owners to arbitrarily change the sacred rules by which the players perform.

Truth is the change the rules faster than some people change their underwear. Letting WRs have the 80's and 180's is simple. Giving linemen the 70's and 170's is not a big deal. Making them slightly smaller is a very simple matter. It can be done. Will they? Probably not. Because ...

Originally Posted by: beast 

NFL often doesn't do the easy and smart thing...



Exactly

Originally Posted by: beast 

So I think they should just limit it to a certain amount of years. Minimum of 20... probably 25 to 50.



I'm not a fan of this. Sorry. Either retire the number or don't. Don't do it for only a little while and then change your mind.
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2022-08-07T17:52:09Z
Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 


Is there a rule against team additions to jerseys? Maybe something like a team patch or logo indicating that numbers importance in history?



There is a rule. Anytime a team wants to put a patch on their jerseys to honor a former player, owner or what have you, they need the approval from the Ivory Tower Clan. And then everyone has to have the same patch.

It's MLB not NFL but a few years ago the Big Island, Hawaii, was being devastated by a volcano lava flow. Kolten Wong wanted to put a patch on his jersey simply to raise awareness. Corp said no. He would have been the only one. His jersey would not have been "uniform". I've herad of similar things in the NFL but I do not recall them.
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Mucky Tundra
2022-08-07T17:57:44Z
Originally Posted by: wpr 

There is a rule. Anytime a team wants to put a patch on their jerseys to honor a former player, owner or what have you, they need the approval from the Ivory Tower Clan. And then everyone has to have the same patch.

It's MLB not NFL but a few years ago the Big Island, Hawaii, was being devastated by a volcano lava flow. Kolten Wong wanted to put a patch on his jersey simply to raise awareness. Corp said no. He would have been the only one. His jersey would not have been "uniform". I've herad of similar things in the NFL but I do not recall them.



Peyton Manning tried to wear black hightops after Johnny Unitas died but the NFL quashed that idea I believe.
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beast
2022-08-07T18:13:11Z
In general, the NFL has a rule for ever PR or appearance thing... how strongly said thing is or isn't enforced depends on if it's an owner or manager trying to do it...

But that's why players have called the NFL the No Fun League...

The NFL has started to loose up a bit, but really only after the George Floyd riots... and even then, only for selected things or select Sundays.

One NFL player wanted to wear pink shoes all year long, which the NFL allows for breast Cancer month, and said player's family had a long history or the women getting breast cancer... so he wanted to do it all season long... NFL forbid it and threaten to fine him if he kept it up.

Honestly, I don't see the issue, they were NFL approved shoes, made by the NFL's cleats sponsors, and the NFL allows players to wear pink cleats to support ... but I guess only NFL only support it one month a year...
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Cheesey
2022-08-07T19:06:33Z
How about a pre set number of numbers a team is allowed to retire? Like say 6 numbers.
When you reach that amount of retired numbers, if you want to retire a new one, then the one that has been retired the longest now is usable again.
That doesn't have a set number of years , like 25 or 50. It could be more or less. Like for the Packers, if they retired a new one, the 3 would once again be usable.

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2022-08-07T20:05:13Z
Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

How about a pre set number of numbers a team is allowed to retire? Like say 6 numbers.
When you reach that amount of retired numbers, if you want to retire a new one, then the one that has been retired the longest now is usable again.
That doesn't have a set number of years , like 25 or 50. It could be more or less. Like for the Packers, if they retired a new one, the 3 would once again be usable.

I don't like it, as Jerry Jones type could "retire" every players that makes the probowl and really lower the value of the gesture.


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2022-08-08T01:01:16Z
Originally Posted by: beast 

I don't like it, as Jerry Jones type could "retire" every players that makes the probowl and really lower the value of the gesture.



But that would be the Cowboys, which already lowers the value!😉😁
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