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Vic asks some good questions

Are the Packers fans tired of winning? Because winning doesn't seem to make them very happy anymore.

Currently 1st in the NFC, and lots of complaining.
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Originally Posted by: beast 

Vic asks some good questions

Are the Packers fans tired of winning? Because winning doesn't seem to make them very happy anymore.

Currently 1st in the NFC, and lots of complaining.

I don't think fans are tired of winning. I think fans want GB to win by 30-40 or 50 points each and every week. If the Packers don't, then there is something wrong with the team.

Tired of winning? No, kind of spoiled as I see it.
The Packers should have won more Super Bowls. Sometimes it was the team messing up, sometimes refs messing up.

I love seeing “my” team win, and never will get tired of it.
I think some of the younger fans think that winning anything short of a super bowl isn’t enough. We have had 2 great QBs, and are used to winning.
Me, I lived through the 70s and 80s and realize winning isn’t so automatic. So I’m enjoying the winning while we still have it.
I think Packers fans recognize the way the team is not winning will not suffice in the playoffs. And I think when fans see the same mistakes happening in each game, they probably think "I'm just a fan and I see this, why can't the coaches see this and correct it?". Which I think that line of thinking underestimates just how hard the game of football truly is. And I think because we've been fortunate to have such a long string of regular season success that we feel it is not difficult.

I also think we have as a society grown impatient. If we plant a seed, we expect to turn around in 30 seconds and see a plant or flower.
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This is a red herring.

I think all Packer fans want a team and coaching staff which is able to meaningfully compete for a Super Bowl. That means not just getting to the playoffs, it means having a legitimate shot.

I think we would rather be a wild card team with the capability to stay on the field with anyone versus a soft division winning team.

Of course we want to win, but we want to think we can win it all.
I am happy as a fan. Got to enjoy every game with two HOF QBs back to back.

Can't control how any other fans feel.
I am not tired of winning and recognize it is hard to be the best team. I just find it hard not to feel we should have a few more Super Bowl titles in the Favre & Rodgers era. I have a friend who is a Lions fan and one who is a Browns fan. I recognize how lucky I am for the past almost 3 decades.
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