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Zero2Cool
2019-11-26T21:41:03Z
gbguy20
2019-11-26T22:01:02Z
People are finally seeing how overrated this guy is. He never earned the reputation he was given by GB fans.
Cheesey
2019-11-26T22:02:41Z
Looks like the KING has been CROWNED!
Zero2Cool
2019-11-26T22:04:29Z
Originally Posted by: gbguy20 

People are finally seeing how overrated this guy is. He never earned the reputation he was given by GB fans.



Packers fans? Try national people. That is what boggled my mind. Packers fans I get being optimistic and whatever, but some of the national people really threw me off.
KRK
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2019-11-26T23:16:02Z
yes, I especially recall the "great in the 4th quarter" but sucked in the first 3 non-sense.

I am afraid we are losing the "holding players accountable" card. If a guy like that doesn't see some bench, it a great unmotivating factor for other players
beast
2019-11-27T02:37:57Z
King really has amazed me with his inconsistency at times this season, one play he might look absolutely amazing (you could make a great highlight type of him, using only the highs), but then he'll normally shortly fall it up with a, WHAT THE HELL was that?

He's got great potential, unfortunately with his inconsistency, that's great potential for both teams right now.
Nonstopdrivel
2019-11-27T03:16:51Z
As a clinical psychologist once said to me: "The hallmark sign of ADHD is inconsistency." Extremely high highs, but maddeningly low lows.
Porforis
2019-11-27T04:33:52Z
hardrocker950
2019-11-27T12:39:22Z
Very much a Jekyll and Hyde situation, unfortunately mostly Hyde lately. Once in a while he makes a huge play, but lately he has been a speed bump in coverage at best. He is often 5+ yards off of his assignment - why? After watching Kittle burn him like a gas soaked match I thought he would be riding the pine - NOPE!

I say they give other guys some opportunities, maybe Tony Brown?
KRK
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2019-11-28T13:58:56Z
Porforis posted:
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I mean, remove all the blown coverages and he's not THAT bad...

other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like play
Hrocker hsrkened:
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I say they give other guys some opportunities, maybe Tony Brown?

I couldn’t agree more. But He has been in the doghouse ever since a sideline shouting match among defensive backs during, I think it was, the Oakland game.

He can’t be any worse.
beast
2019-11-28T14:44:12Z
I find it interesting, that when fans start talking about benching a starting CB, they go straight for the 3rd/4th string asking why don't we try Brown, Jackson, Hollman, etc skipping right over the 2nd string of Tramon Williams and Chandon Sullivan.
Zero2Cool
2019-11-28T15:26:02Z
Originally Posted by: beast 

I find it interesting, that when fans start talking about benching a starting CB, they go straight for the 3rd/4th string asking why don't we try Brown, Jackson, Hollman, etc skipping right over the 2nd string of Tramon Williams and Chandon Sullivan.



What is the CB depth order? I thought Kevin King was CB2 and Tramon was slot/nickel CB. Which left me to think Hollman or Brown is CB3. I really don't know though. I'm just thinking if the guy isn't getting it down, put someone else in.

Coaches see these guys in practice and I can only be left to believe the other guys are worse.
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2019-11-28T16:02:12Z
Z2C zaid:
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Coaches see these guys in practice and I can only be left to believe the other guys are worse.

  1. Sometimes, there are great practice players and drill players who don't get it done in games.
  2. Conversely, there are 'gamers', and from what I had recall seeing when he played, Brown was a gamer.
  3. IIRC most of King's 'good' plays are in the red zone when he cant be beaten deep and his height become bigger asset.
  4. Guys get in the doghouse, and I bet Brown resides there, for items other than play
Cheesey
2019-11-28T18:04:16Z
Well, they need to try SOMETHING else. Obviously the guys on the field aren’t getting the job done.
If a guy is in the doghouse, take him out of it and give him a shot.
That’s the only way you will know if what you have is any good.
beast
2019-11-28T19:48:15Z
Originally Posted by: KRK 

  • Guys get in the doghouse, and I bet Brown resides there, for items other than play[/list]



  • And Brown has amazingly great speed and is very willing to hit, which excites the heck out I fans, but the guy also struggles a hell of a lot in coverage, which is while despite being a physical extremely athletic cornerback, he didn't get drafted...

    Brown is extremely athletic, but like Jarrett Bush, he never comes close to putting it all together... so if he is in the dog house, then it's not just that holding him back.

    I still can help but wonder if Brown might make a good deep FS, he's not disciplined, but he's at his best in zone coming forward, which a deep Safety role would give him. If he could mentally handle it, of course we got Savage there too, and need CBs more than Safeties.
    Zero2Cool
    2019-11-28T23:07:43Z
    Originally Posted by: beast 

    And Brown has amazingly great speed and is very willing to hit, which excites the heck out I fans, but the guy also struggles a hell of a lot in coverage, which is while despite being a physical extremely athletic cornerback, he didn't get drafted...

    Brown is extremely athletic, but like Jarrett Bush, he never comes close to putting it all together... so if he is in the dog house, then it's not just that holding him back.

    I still can help but wonder if Brown might make a good deep FS, he's not disciplined, but he's at his best in zone coming forward, which a deep Safety role would give him. If he could mentally handle it, of course we got Savage there too, and need CBs more than Safeties.



    Tony Brown is not in the dog house based on anything I've read. He's made the most of his opportunities, but also made some big mental mistakes (stupid penalties). What I've read and remember about Brown is he has all the physical tools and lacks the mental game and has an attitude. The latter of which is why he didn't get drafted. If a coaching staff could figure out how to give him a role that doesn't require thinking I bet he'd excel. How the hell do you do that though? lol
    KRK
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    2019-11-29T01:59:48Z
    Z2C queried:
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    If a coaching staff could figure out how to give him a role that doesn't require thinking I bet he'd excel.

    Perhaps a role like a Deion Sanders’ i e “get in that guys jock and take him away”.

    Perhaps you try that on the other teams #2 receiver, you might find you have a player.
    gbguy20
    2019-11-29T02:05:47Z
    i don't like the idea of getting into another guy's jock. what in the world
    Cheesey
    2019-11-29T16:41:31Z
    Originally Posted by: gbguy20 

    i don't like the idea of getting into another guy's jock. what in the world



    Well....you ARE an “athletic supporter”, aren’t you???😂
    gbguy20
    2019-11-29T17:55:45Z
    Then again I am not surprised Deion is openly discussing how he likes to get into their jocks
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