Pack93z
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15 years ago
Couple little nuggets in here.. most notably is Jeremy Ashcroft's performance down there..

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Packers scout at Cactus Bowl
Posted Jan 07 2009, 02:53 PM by Brian Carriveau

A scout from the Green Bay Packers can be seen on video on this website checking out senior prospects at the Valero Cactus Bowl in Kingsville, Texas.

Perhaps it's Packers scout Jon-Eric Sullivan, which would make sense seeing as he's the scouting director for the mid-South when the game is being held in Texas.

Even though the game is only being held for Division II players, it shouldn't come as a surprise that the Packers are there. General manager Ted Thompson has been there in the past, and reports were surfacing from the same site yesterday that the Packers new defensive coordinator would be Mike Nolan.

Maybe the Packers are taking a look at tackle Jeremy Ashcroft of Arkansas Tech, who's turning some heads while turning away speed rushers.

The game is being held on Friday night.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
wils0646
15 years ago
Boy, how Ted Thompson loves his hidden small school gems. We got a couple in Jennings and Collins. I wonder if this guy will be a 2nd rounder too.

Why can't Ted Thompson draft in the first round like he does in the 2nd? His 2nd round picks have been great.

2005:
Nick Collins
Terrence Murphy - would have been a rising star if not for injury

2006:
Daryn Colledge
Greg Jennings

2007:
Brandon Jackson - should get more playing time

2008 (time will tell with these guys):
Jordy Nelson
Brian Brohm
Patrick Lee
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Pack93z
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15 years ago
He seems to have Wolfitis... up and down with regards to 1st round selections.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Can anyone really name a GM who consistently hits home runs in the first round?
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Pack93z
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15 years ago

Can anyone really name a GM who consistently hits home runs in the first round?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



One without even thinking comes to mind... Pollian and the colts.. but point taken.. most are up and down with their first rounders.

AP= Vote All Pro
PB=Pro Bowl
St=Primary Starter for their team..

Pretty impressive stuff..


Rk  	Year  	Rnd  	Pick  	             	Pos  	Tm  	From  	To  	AP  	PB  	St  	G  	College/Univ
1	2007	1	32	Athny Gonzalez 	WR 	IND 	2007	2008	0	0	1	29	Ohio State
2	2006	1	30	Joseph Addai 	RB 	IND 	2006	2008	0	1	1	43	LSU
3	2005	1	29	Marlin Jackson 	DB 	IND 	2005	2008	0	0	2	52	Michigan
4	2003	1	24	Dallas Clark 	TE 	IND 	2003	2008	0	0	5	82	Iowa
5	2002	1	11	Dwight Freeney 	DE 	IND 	2002	2008	2	3	6	100	Syracuse
6	2001	1	30	Reggie Wayne 	WR 	IND 	2001	2008	0	2	7	125	Miami (FL)
7	2000	1	28	Rob Morris 	LB 	IND 	2000	2007	0	0	4	99	BYU
8	1999	1	4	Edgerrin James 	RB 	IND 	1999	2008	1	4	8	141	Miami (FL)
9	1998	1	1	Peyton Manning 	QB 	IND 	1998	2008	3	8	10	176	Tennessee
10	1997	1	19	Tarik Glenn 	T 	IND 	1997	2006	0	3	10	154	California
11	1996	1	19	M. Harrison 	WR 	IND 	1996	2008	3	8	11	190	Syracuse
12	1995	1	15	Ellis Johnson 	DT 	IND 	1995	2004	0	0	5	149	Florida
13	1994	1	2	Marshall Faulk 	RB 	IND 	1994	2005	3	7	11	176	San Diego State 

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I must say, I am impressed and humbled. Any others?
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Pack93z
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15 years ago
Another one.. with few misses to his credit.. Ozzie Newsome. GM since 02, in charge of the drafts since 1996...


Rk  	Year  	Rnd  	Pick  	        	Pos  	Tm  	AP1  	PB  	St  	G  	College/Univ
1	2008	1	18	Joe Flacco 	QB 	BAL 	0	0	0	16	Delaware
2	2007	1	29	Ben Grubbs 	G 	BAL 	0	0	1	17	Auburn
3	2006	1	12	Haloti Ngata 	DT 	BAL 	0	0	2	48	Oregon
4	2005	1	22	Mark Clayton 	WR 	BAL 	0	0	3	62	Oklahoma
5	2003	1	10	Terrell Suggs 	LB 	BAL 	0	2	4	96	Arizona State
6	2003	1	19	Kyle Boller 	QB 	BAL 	0	0	4	53	California
7	2002	1	24	Ed Reed 	DB 	BAL 	3	4	6	106	Miami (FL)
8	2001	1	31	Todd Heap 	TE 	BAL 	0	2	5	102	Arizona State
9	2000	1	5	Jamal Lewis 	RB 	BAL 	1	1	7	122	Tennessee
10	2000	1	10	Travis Taylor 	WR 	BAL 	0	0	7	101	Florida
11	1999	1	10	C. McAlister 	DB 	BAL 	1	3	9	134	Arizona
12	1998	1	10	Duane Starks 	DB 	BAL 	0	0	4	98	Miami (FL)
13	1997	1	4	Peter Boulware 	LB 	BAL 	0	4	7	126	Florida State
14	1996	1	4	Jonathan Ogden 	T 	BAL 	4	11	12	177	UCLA
15	1996	1	26	Ray Lewis 	LB 	BAL 	5	9	10	178	Miami (FL)

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Pack93z
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15 years ago
For comparison's sake.. Packers under the last 3 GM's.. 4 Pro Bowls by 1st rounders..


Rk  	Year  	Rnd  	Pick  	 	       Pos  	AP1  	PB  	St  	College/Univ
1	2007	1	16	Justin Harrell 	DT 	0	0	0	Tennessee
2	2006	1	5	A.J. Hawk 	LB 	0	0	2	Ohio State
3	2005	1	24	Aaron Rodgers 	QB 	0	0	0	California
4	2004	1	25	Ahmad Carroll 	DB 	0	0	2	Arkansas
5	2003	1	29	Nick Barnett 	LB 	0	0	5	Oregon State
6	2002	1	20	Javon Walker 	WR 	0	1	2	Florida State
7	2001	1	10	Jamal Reynolds 	DE 	0	0	0	Florida State
8	2000	1	14	Bubba Franks 	TE 	0	3	6	Miami (FL)
9	1999	1	25	Antuan Edwards 	DB 	0	0	1	Clemson
10	1998	1	19	V. Holliday 	DE 	0	0	8	North Carolina
11	1997	1	30	Ross Verba 	T 	0	0	8	Iowa
12	1996	1	27	John Michels 	T 	0	0	1	USC
13	1995	1	32	Craig Newsome 	DB 	0	0	3	Arizona State

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
wils0646
15 years ago
Check Bill Belichick's for NE. I'm sure it's great. They seem to get good players even when consistently picking late in the 1st round.
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Pack93z
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15 years ago
I checked the Pats.. decent players but not over the top like I expected..



Year  	Rnd  	Pick  	        	Pos  	AP1  	PB  	St  	G  	College/Univ
2008	1	10	Jerod Mayo 	LB 	0	0	0	16	Tennessee
2007	1	24	B. Meriweather 	DB 	0	0	0	32	Miami (FL)
2006	1	21	L. Maroney 	RB 	0	0	0	30	Minnesota
2005	1	32	Logan Mankins 	G 	0	1	3	50	Fresno State
2004	1	21	Vince Wilfork 	NT 	0	1	3	76	Miami (FL)
2004	1	32	Ben Watson 	TE 	0	0	2	51	Georgia
2003	1	13	Ty Warren 	DE 	0	0	4	89	Texas A&M
2002	1	21	Daniel Graham 	TE 	0	0	4	92	Colorado
2001	1	6	R. Seymour 	DE 	3	5	6	110	Georgia

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
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