porky88
15 years ago
I said before I don't think he's a good fit and I disagree with Mike McCarthy's evaluation of Aaron Kampman. He's the best defensive player on the Packers front seven and your kind of handicapping him in the 3-4 in my opinion, but if one player on this team can pull it off and maintain his level of play, it's Aaron Kampman.
Dulak
15 years ago

Along with most on this board, I didn't think Kampman had a place in a 3-4 defense. Too small for DE; too slow for OLB. Well, Kampman is listed at 265 and a quick look over other OLBs in a 3-4 shows that many of the OLBs that line up over the RT, as Kampman would, are in the 260-270 range. That includes Lamar Woodley, Greg Ellis, Matt Roth, Johnson in Baltimore, some guy in SF (don't remeber his name), Willie McGinest, and Mike Vrabel, Adelius Thomas, and others. That group of guys doesn't strike me as a freakishly athletic bunch.

Who knows? Maybe Kampman can pull it off. At this point I'm inclined to trust the judgement of Dom Capers.

Thoughts?

"HoustonMatt" wrote:



ya Im wondering where Kampman's roll will be in a 3-4 and people talked about signing Peppers. His roll also. He's more of a 4-3 guy.

Just as long as we dont use our main draft on some upfront D man that doesnt do anything
Rios39
15 years ago

I said before I don't think he's a good fit and I disagree with Mike McCarthy's evaluation of Aaron Kampman. He's the best defensive player on the Packers front seven and your kind of handicapping him in the 3-4 in my opinion, but if one player on this team can pull it off and maintain his level of play, it's Aaron Kampman.

"porky88" wrote:



I trust his words over you or anyone else on these boards lol.

I think we'll see Kampman coming free on blitzes from the OLB position next year.
blank
JNelson87
15 years ago
I'm skeptical about the 3-4. Only time will tell if it works. I jus hope we get some 3-4 expierienced guys to come in. The list of defensive FA's is a damn good one. We should be fine, if we go into next season with basically the same players on D in a 3-4 defense, then we'll be in trouble, JMO.
UserPostedImage
jdog2
15 years ago
Does Winston Moss have any experience in the 3-4? He is the LB coach.
blank
ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

Along with most on this board, I didn't think Kampman had a place in a 3-4 defense. Too small for DE; too slow for OLB. Well, Kampman is listed at 265 and a quick look over other OLBs in a 3-4 shows that many of the OLBs that line up over the RT, as Kampman would, are in the 260-270 range. That includes Lamar Woodley, Greg Ellis, Matt Roth, Johnson in Baltimore, some guy in SF (don't remeber his name), Willie McGinest, and Mike Vrabel, Adelius Thomas, and others. That group of guys doesn't strike me as a freakishly athletic bunch.

Who knows? Maybe Kampman can pull it off. At this point I'm inclined to trust the judgement of Dom Capers.

Thoughts?

"HoustonMatt" wrote:




I bolded the statement I agree with most strongly, but I wanted to say good call on your first paragraph as well. I was totally locked into the Suggs-type players and totally forgot about guys like Vrabel - Kampy's at least as good an athlete as him.

But the part I bolded is the most important to me. I highly doubt Capers would come here to implement his defense if he didn't think the players were capable of playing that defense, and I'm sure personnel was a big part of their discussions. I also don't think McCarthy's dumb enough to state that stuff for the record if he's not sure whether Capers agrees.

Above all, I believe that Thompson and McCarthy realize they don't have the luxury to set a 2-3 year re-tooling plan into place - they have to have a plan for this shift, and it doesn't make any sense if they don't truly think they have pieces in place to do it quickly and effectively.
blank
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
In the weird, convoluted way my brain works, watching the Ravens put their nose tackle on the offensive line yesterday, and the way Vrabel's name got tossed into this conversation, caused me to think about Charles Woodson.

What are the chances Dom Capers lobbies Mike McCarthy and Joe Philbin to make good on their promises to let Woodson get some snaps on offense? Woodson seems to have some of the surest hands on the team. I'd love to see him line up as a surprise eligible receiver on occasional downs inside the 10. Vrabel is currently 10-for-10 catching TD passes. Imagine what Woodson could do!
UserPostedImage
Bigbyfan
15 years ago

In the weird, convoluted way my brain works, watching the Ravens put their nose tackle on the offensive line yesterday, and the way Vrabel's name got tossed into this conversation, caused me to think about Charles Woodson.

What are the chances Dom Capers lobbies Mike McCarthy and Joe Philbin to make good on their promises to let Woodson get some snaps on offense? Woodson seems to have some of the surest hands on the team. I'd love to see him line up as a surprise eligible receiver on occasional downs inside the 10. Vrabel is currently 10-for-10 catching TD passes. Imagine what Woodson could do!

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



nah... the reason vrabel works is because he is big enough to go down in a three point stance at the TE position. Our top 3/4 receivers are good enough to stay on the field in the redzone instead of getting benched in favor of a defensive back.
blank
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
How many games this last season did we actually have all five WRs on the field at the same time, though? In short-yardage situations, it would have been interesting to see what Woodson could have done filling in for, say, the injured James Jones.

Woodson has said one of the reasons he came to Green Bay was they promised him the chance to play offense. I would like to see what he can do, at least in the preseason. If it doesn't work out, at least we know we tried.
UserPostedImage
porky88
15 years ago

Does Winston Moss have any experience in the 3-4? He is the LB coach.

"jdog2" wrote:



He played in it.
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    jdlax (4h) : Happy belated Dad Day Kev and all
    jdlax (4h) : The Panthers- Canada's team
    beast (6h) : And the Hershey Bears for their AHL Championship šŸ† with tons of overtime games
    Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Sure getting lot of spam accounts lately.
    Martha Careful (25-Jun) : Congratulations to the Florida Panthers in the NHL and U Tenn in the CWS on their championships
    Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : He slammed Rodgers for not being married. And said he wants his QB settled down, not single.
    wpr (24-Jun) : NOT
    wpr (24-Jun) : This is such a relief. I have been so worried that Cowturd, I mean, herd would never approve of Love.
    Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : Colin Cowherd now approves of Jordan Love.
    Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : Jordan Love has proposed to his girlfriend Ronika Stone
    wpr (22-Jun) : A Packer, Lion and Viking kicker were vying for a job. The bares kicker didn't even qualify.
    dfosterf (21-Jun) : Supposedly looked good up to this point in OTA's etc. "Monster Leg" mentioned.
    dfosterf (21-Jun) : Packers picked up Lions reject kicker James Turner, the guy they cut to make room for Jake Bates
    Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : And Javon Bullard missing a tackle. Win some lose some apparently
    Zero2Cool (20-Jun) : Madden 25 trailer opens with Justin Fields returning a kick off hahahaha
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers have released kicker Jack Podlesny.
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : I saw that today. I actually thought he passed away few years ago. 24 time All Star.
    Martha Careful (19-Jun) : sad news tonight. Willie Mays passes away. He was the greatest of all time
    Martha Careful (16-Jun) : Amen Z2C, I hope all of you fathers have a terrific Fathers' Day. Be great fathers!!!
    Zero2Cool (16-Jun) : Happy Father's Day to the dad's
    Zero2Cool (14-Jun) : YOU BROKE IT
    buckeyepackfan (14-Jun) : Welcome to "The Dead Zone" may the only Packer News we hear is positive!!
    buckeyepackfan (14-Jun) : Trevor Lawrence-5yr 275mil-200mil guaranteed. J-10VE is next.
    Mucky Tundra (13-Jun) : @AaronWilson_NFL #Packers have signed first-round pick Jordan Morgan to $14.185 million deal that includes $7.135 million signing bonus
    jdlax (11-Jun) : Hahaha hellllllll no, Sunday is king! It's those Thursday night games that hurt
    Mucky Tundra (11-Jun) : @AndyHermanNFL Looks like Tucker Kraft is out of the sling. Progress!
    Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : That's also my oldests birthday
    Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : Thought it was I fucking hate SNF. I went what why it's consistently way better than any other game
    Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : Whoa. I read that so wrong before Jared lol
    wpr (10-Jun) : that's great jdlax
    jdlax (10-Jun) : God I hate the Shithawks
    jdlax (10-Jun) : Sunday Night fucking Football
    jdlax (10-Jun) : I just got my tickets to represent in Seattle December 15th woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    Martha Careful (9-Jun) : I really enjoyed game 1 of the Stanley Cup final. Sergei Bobrovsky G - FL was incredibly good.
    Mucky Tundra (4-Jun) : *NFL
    Mucky Tundra (4-Jun) : @ByRyanWood Pads or no pads, welcome to the N
    Mucky Tundra (4-Jun) : @ByRyanWood Rashan Gary just steamrolled Jordan Morgan on a bull rush. Drove right over him to the ground.
    Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : God and a lot of money brought Reggie to GB
    Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : yep. became the highest paid defensive player in the league and 3rd highest behind Elway and Marino
    Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : Packers signed second-round pick Javon Bullard
    Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : Reggie White got something like 4 years $17m total right?
    buckeyepackfan (3-Jun) : 110mil guaranteed!!!
    Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : Justin Jefferson. 4/$140m ??? wow
    Mucky Tundra (31-May) : @AndyHermanNFL Sean Rhyan getting some reps at center in walkthroughs. They are rotating guys everywhere.
    Mucky Tundra (31-May) : or that might have been an individual drill thing
    Mucky Tundra (31-May) : that was from the 29th but I've seen other combs (including Rhyan@C)
    Mucky Tundra (31-May) : @ByRyanWood Without Elgton Jenkins and Zach Tom, #Packers starting OL: Rasheed Walker, Jordan Morgan, Josh Myers, Sean Rhyan, Andre Dillard.
    Martha Careful (31-May) : I have never seen an OTA, but who is lining up at LT and RG with starters? or is it all individual drills?
    Zero2Cool (30-May) : Bears are the first team to be selected for Hard Knocks
    dfosterf (29-May) : Andy Herman and his Pack a day podcast put up GB strengths yesterday. This morning he did weaknesses. They are both very good.
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
    Eagles
    Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
    COLTS
    Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
    Titans
    Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
    Rams
    Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
    CARDINALS
    Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
    TEXANS
    Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Jaguars
    Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Bears
    Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
    49ERS
    Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
    DOLPHINS
    Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
    Seahawks
    Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
    SAINTS
    Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
    Vikings
    Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
    BEARS
    Recent Topics
    1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    24-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    24-Jun / Random Babble / earthquake

    23-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    23-Jun / Around The NFL / wpr

    19-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    19-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    18-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    12-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    11-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    11-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    Headlines
    Copyright Ā© 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.comā„¢. All Rights Reserved.