nerdmann
8 months ago
Trade Nijman at the trade deadline. Right now teams are waiting to get guys free on cut-down day.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
nerdmann
8 months ago

Wow...who has been drinking their asshole juice this morning.

I recognize one can do all the things that you claim...but it would make no fucking sense and everyone in the world sees that...but apparently you.

YOU are posting YOUR opinion of the situation the same as I am...and acting like a complete douche in the process.

We are undergoing a youth movement with a need to correct our salary cap an not push any can down the road.

Whatever Gute does will be what happens, but like not moving Aaron earlier I PERSONALLY feel it'll be a day late and dollar short. Everyone plays GM for their team. We'll see when the season is over what shakes out.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



I think he's going thru some shit.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
buckeyepackfan
8 months ago
I have learned ever since Josh Sitton was released at last cut not to be surprised at anything.

Up until a couple of years ago, I would start right after the draft and work on my final 53, it should be a fun little project, but I found myself getting way to invested in "why" and "what the hell" when moves were made that I didn't agree with.
Much more relaxing to just put out a 53 man roster after the draft and see how it looks after final cuts.

No matter what anyone thinks, Gute is the guy who will put together THE TEAM, pass it on to Matt and he and his coaches deal with the cards that are given them.

I look around the league and see a lot of teams already cutting players.

The fact that Gute has said he is going to wait till Tuesday to do final cuts, tells me he has some tough decisions to make.
That's not a bad thing.

Just because Nijman didn't win the starting RT job doesn't mean he got worse, could mean that Thom and Walker made that 2nd year jump and got that much better.

Again, not a bad thing.

I no longer worry about The Salary Cap, in today's NFL, there are 100 ways to manipulate it.
The Packers have one of the best in Ball to do just that.
The Packers have a first year starter at qb, THE #1 PRIORITY is to keep him protected.
I have confidence that Gute will make the right decisions.
Everybody has their own opinions, we are not going to agree all the time.
No sense in attacking each other.
Kumbaya everyone!
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
earthquake
8 months ago

Trade Nijman at the trade deadline. Right now teams are waiting to get guys free on cut-down day.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yeah, I think there will be guys like Nijman (or slightly worse) available after cuts, so he probably doesn't have much trade value. I guess his value to the Packers is higher than what he's worth. But if they can get a 4th or better for him, why not? Waiting until the trade deadline makes sense too - injuries on the oline always seem to happen so they could wait and see how the season shakes out.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he's cut outright. They can carry his ~$4m contract, but if he's fallen to #4 or #5 at T, that's a pretty high cost to pay for a guy who probably isn't playing much, if at all, this season. I think it really depends on their confidence in Bahktari's knee - if they don't have faith in David remaining healthy, Nijman could quickly be the #3 again.
blank
beast
8 months ago
Could Nijman be released due to Cap Reasons?

This isn't my idea, but just saw something online suggesting it's possible.

IF OT Walker has indeed passed OT Nijman on the depth chart to become the #3 OT, like some have suggested... would the Packers still be willing to pay Nijman's $4.3 million for a #4 OT?

I think it's an interesting question. Someone else would cost about a million to fill the spot, so it'd save $3.3 million. But a team might be willing to do it to save that, especially if that can trade him and get something in value back. But they might do it just to save the money if they don't think Nijman is headed in the right direction.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
8 months ago

If everyone knows you are releasing someone, then they aren't worth shit, and you wouldn't be looking forward to what you could get for him.

Originally Posted by: beast 



If everyone knows you are releasing someone, generally that's when we see the conditional 7th round picks being thrown around. And it's done to ensure they get the player. If all 31 teams know a player is gonna be released, you're not really wanting to risk letting the player/agent decide the landing spot. Granted, if the player is being released, you're not really pining hard for the guy. Hence the conditional 7th picks being tossed around. 

"Leaking" a player is going to be released is actually a strategy some teams use in hopes someone will toss in a draft pick, even if it's a 7th rounder.
UserPostedImage
beast
8 months ago

If everyone knows you are releasing someone, generally that's when we see the conditional 7th round picks being thrown around. And it's done to ensure they get the player. If all 31 teams know a player is gonna be released, you're not really wanting to risk letting the player/agent decide the landing spot. Granted, if the player is being released, you're not really pining hard for the guy. Hence the conditional 7th picks being tossed around. 

"Leaking" a player is going to be released is actually a strategy some teams use in hopes someone will toss in a draft pick, even if it's a 7th rounder.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I thought we were trying to drop that part of the discussion, because I was being too much of an asshole for others? 

But since you brought it back up, and back to the context of Bakhtiari, which was the context of what you quoted, are you suggesting he's looking forward for the Packers to trade Bakhtiari for a 7th round pick in 2023? Because supposedly (his claim) that everyone knows we're going to release Bakhtiari in the 2024 off-season.


PS: I agree with what you said, just not to he context of the Bakhtiari situation. I extremely believe if they knew they would be releasing Bakhtiari before the 2024 season, they would of drafted an OT very high in in 2023 draft to get one year under development before losing Bakhtiari.

​​​​​
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
8 months ago

I thought we were trying to drop that part of the discussion, because I was being too much of an asshole for others? 

But since you brought it back up, and back to the context of Bakhtiari, which was the context of what you quoted, are you suggesting he's looking forward for the Packers to trade Bakhtiari for a 7th round pick in 2023? Because supposedly (his claim) that everyone knows we're going to release Bakhtiari in the 2024 off-season.


PS: I agree with what you said, just not to he context of the Bakhtiari situation. I extremely believe if they knew they would be releasing Bakhtiari before the 2024 season, they would of drafted an OT very high in in 2023 draft to get one year under development before losing Bakhtiari.​​​​​

Originally Posted by: beast 



I didn't mention a specific player so not really sure you did so while quoting me. I was just addressing the part of which I quoted. No reason to extrapolate it into something else. 
UserPostedImage
beast
8 months ago

I didn't mention a specific player so not really sure you did so while quoting me. I was just addressing the part of which I quoted. No reason to extrapolate it into something else. 

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

 You are King of telling us to "Keep it in Context of the Subject"... and when I keep it in the context of the subject, somehow I'm the one extrapolate? 

Extrapolate is taking something to an unknown context, but in this situation, the context of Bakhtiari was clearly there in the message you only partly quoted. 
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
8 months ago

You are King of telling us to "Keep it in Context of the Subject"... and when I keep it in the context of the subject, somehow I'm the one extrapolate? 

Extrapolate is taking something to an unknown context, but in this situation, the context of Bakhtiari was clearly there in the message you only partly quoted. 

Originally Posted by: beast 



The subject is about trading Yosh Nijman, yes? That's what I read the title to be anyhow. Yet, you went off on some tantrum about David Bakhtiari for a 7th round pick. I really have no idea what is going on here. Regarding the individual this subject is titled about, I wouldn't be surprised if Yosh Nijman is cut, nor would I be surprised if he's traded for a day three pick. Although, I would probably be more surprised about the trade than being cut. I think it was the 2020 playoffs that they tinkered with the OL and the person shuffled out was Yosh. So, I think that kind of tells us a little bit about their confidence in him. At least, a few years ago. Confidence can grow over time.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
beast (1h) : Just saying I don't think moving Myers would help Myers.
beast (1h) : Center is usually considered the easiest position physically if you can handle the snap stuff.
Mucky Tundra (16h) : Bust it is then
Zero2Cool (17h) : Context. Sounds like Myers won't be cross-trained. C or bust.
Mucky Tundra (18h) : @BookOfEli_NFL Packers pass game coordinator, Jason Vrable said that Jayden Reed and Dontayvion Wicks shared a placed in Florida while train
Mucky Tundra (18h) : For now...
Zero2Cool (19h) : Packers go about evaluating their "best five," OL coach Luke Butkus makes on thing clear: "Josh Myers is our center."
beast (21h) : Though I'm a bit surprised letting go of CBs, I thought we needed more not less
beast (21h) : It was confusing with two DB Anthony Johnson anyways
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.
Martha Careful (6-May) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Walter Stanely's son
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.
Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”
Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes
Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.
dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that
dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)
Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
dfosterf (1-May) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.
Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.
dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left
dhazer (29-Apr) : out of curiosity do they try and sign Simmons or Hyde to let these young safeties learn from, they can't be day 1 starters.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : I miss having Sam Shields.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Not that he's making excuses, just pointing it out
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : That's for dang sure. Make our erratic kicker have no excuse!
packerfanoutwest (28-Apr) : having a great long snapper is gold
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : LaFleur looking like he had some weight. Coachin will do that lol
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Thanks Mucky and whomever created topcos for each pick!
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Insane about Kingsley
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Putring it here so Mucky sees it. He was our guy!
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Bowden long snapper Wisconsin. Consensus best LS in college.
dfosterf (28-Apr) : We got Peter Bowde
dfosterf (28-Apr) : I personally interpret that as a partial tear that can be recovered from with rehab
dfosterf (28-Apr) : MLF said Kingsley Enagbare did NOT tear his ACL and did NOT require surgery, and that he is "looking good" for the 2024 season!
beast (28-Apr) : T.O. son signs with the 49ers
Mucky Tundra (28-Apr) : damn those vikings
beast (27-Apr) : UDFA Vikings sign TE – Trey Knox, South Carolina
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2023 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
Bears
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
LIONS
Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
Raiders
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
CHARGERS
Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
CHIEFS
Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
Giants
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Panthers
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
Cowboys
Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
49ers
Recent Topics
1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

5-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / beast

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

4-May / Packers Draft Threads / bboystyle

4-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

3-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.